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The Tube's three largest unions, RMT, Aslef and TSSA, have made clear their objections citing instances such as the July 7 terrorist attacks. Bob Crow, the RMT leader, has said he would lead the most strenuous campaign at what he views as a "reckless gamble".

He believes the public is against such a move and told Mr Livingstone: "Put it in your manifesto that there will be a driver on every train and you will win."

What a fool he actually thinks that londoners care about tube workers, most i know see them as robbing bastards holding commuters to ransom. Great to see that they will only order driverless trains in future.
fudge off Mr Crowe
 
Excellent blog article on Ken the Hypocrite on the Telegraph

Like a clockwork model you can’t unwind, Ken proceeded on his pre-programmed campaign path today – a new attack on Boris for his high earnings and alleged failure to give money to charity!


The day after Ken (income in 2009: ?ú232,000; tax paid on that sum: about 21 per cent ) was exposed a tax-avoiding member of the “1 per cent,” Ken’s “very positive campaign” has launched attack ads on Boris for writing a well-paid Daily Telegraph column. He handed in a letter at Downing Street calling on Boris to give up his “second job” and which includes the following priceless passage:


"The global economic crisis, the arguments over bankers’ bonuses, and the scandals over MPs’ expenses, all mean the public now expect much higher standards about the accountability of people in public life than ever before."


Boris does earn a lot of money. But he doesn’t channel it through a personal company to avoid at least ?ú50,000 in tax. You’d think even Ken would have the shame – or at least the elementary political nous – to realise that this is the wrong moment for his big class-war thrust.


There is sometimes a point at which political campaigns tip into ridicule. I don't think Ken is there, yet, but much more of this and he will be.


There’s one other problem with Ken’s latest piece of “very positive" campaigning. As the blogger Guido Fawkes has pointed out, Ken himself wrote a newspaper column, in The Independent, for about a year after he became mayor. It’s worse than that, actually. For more than a year after his election, he also remained as MP for Brent East.


So instead of having “two jobs,” Mayor Ken had three.


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Like most people with a brain, I don't like socialists.

But I fudging despise champagne socialists like Ken Livingstone and Poly Toynbee. C*unts
 
I think the big problem for boris is that his personality is bigger then him, i wish he was a more serious politican and i say that as someone who is more to the right then the centre.

Ken can get in by the fact that he was last in when everything was rosy and maybe people will remember that and think he is good for that reason.

Saw last week that boris had appointed a police chief to break up gangs, a special task force. Made a big thing about it and all i could think was how long has he been in office and he is only now doing something about it. Did not impress me that, apparently the was lots of corruption around when ken was in but maybe the public have forgotten about all that now.

its not exactly a new problem and he may only be doing it now, but at least he is doing it unlike red Ken.

Livingstone is slimey and corrupt IMO. Boris does seem to have the heart of London and Londoners (and in that i include the mass commuters than work in London and the tourists) in his decision making, even if he doesnt get it right all of the time

I agree with Chich's point re; Londoners commuting workforce having a vote as the issues do affect them and they do pay for London (albeit to a lesser extent than residents) through higher prices etc.
(maybe a system where you get the vote if you've worked in London non stop for 3years and the "non resident" vote is weighted)
 
I lived in London for 25 years, and have worked in the City since 1997. Yet now I live outside of London I do not get to vote. I think that is wrong. Considering that I commute in to the City five days a week, I think I should get to have a say over who is making important decisions in respect of the London transport system, and other matters that affect me as a commuter.
 
bit catty that article, you cant give a man stick for using an accountant. not in my book anyway

you can if he is trying to be elected to reperesent the public and wants to enusre fairness and parity for everyone he represents
no he didnt act outside the law, but you have to look at moral code also
 
I lived in London for 25 years, and have worked in the City since 1997. Yet now I live outside of London I do not get to vote. I think that is wrong. Considering that I commute in to the City five days a week, I think I should get to have a say over who is making important decisions in respect of the London transport system, and other matters that affect me as a commuter.

more importantly, affect London as a city

what do you think about having your vote weighted?
 
I think that would be a fair way of doing it, but how to weight it appropriately is a difficultt one to judge. I think people who live in the City and are thus affected by council issues such as rubbish collection and stuff like that should have more of a say than me, but there are millions of people who commute in from outside the M25 on a daily basis, and we do not get a say in anything, and this ought to be looked at.
 
how it weighted is certainly an area for debate and no doubt people would moan

be a good time for some hard politics - we are giving you a vote weighted at 50% to reflect the time you are affected by and affect London..........if you don't like that weighting, we withdraw your vote. deal with it.

I would say 50% makes sense. or maybe a referendum for the current voters to vote on the weighting - thats probably the most fair way of doing it.

but hey, i cant see it happening as it would set a precident and every large city would want to do the same - it would also cost a lot in admin to determine who can/cant vote
 
you can if he is trying to be elected to reperesent the public and wants to enusre fairness and parity for everyone he represents
no he didnt act outside the law, but you have to look at moral code also

maybe. I dont think using an accountant equates to tax avoidance. In this election, as with any election, the candidates policies should decide who wins. I personally dont care if Boris has 3 jobs, as long as hes there when hes supposed to be and does his best to get his manifesto working.

government isnt a person. its a mistake to get personal in my opinion, I think its a big mistake for either Ken or Boris to start having little digs at each other. Its very easy to vote for someone else. What other candidates are there? Id genuinely like to hear more from them
 
To be clear - I would do the same if I were Livingstone, I applaud him!

Its the whole hypocrisy of slagging the rich and then avoiding tax that fudges me off.
 
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