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Firms urged to crack down on office football chat

markysimmo

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This clam can fudge off

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51261999

Chat about football or cricket in the workplace should be curtailed, a management body has warned.

Ann Francke, head of the Chartered Management Institute, said sports chat can exclude women and lead to more laddish behaviour.

"A lot of women, in particular, feel left out," she told the BBC's Today programme.

"They don't follow those sports and they don't like either being forced to talk about them or not being included."

"I have nothing against sports enthusiasts or cricket fans - that's great," she said.

"But the issue is many people aren't cricket fans," she added, arguing bosses should crack down on sports banter.

Ms Francke is concerned that discussing football and, for example, the merits of video assistant refereeing (VAR) can disproportionately exclude women and divide offices.

"It's a gateway to more laddish behaviour and - if it just goes unchecked - it's a signal of a more laddish culture," she said

"It's very easy for it to escalate from VAR talk and chat to slapping each other on the back and talking about their conquests at the weekend."

'Terrible idea'
Nevertheless, Ms Francke does not think sports chatter should be banned, just moderated.

She said that good managers should be inclusive and ensure that everyone in their team feels comfortable.

But sports journalist Jacqui Oatley thinks cracking down on sports chatter would be a "terrible idea".

"If you ban football chat or banter of any description, then all you're going to do it alienate the people who actually want to communicate with each other," she told the Today programme

"It would be so, so negative to tell people not to talk about sport because girls don't like it or women don't like it, that's far more divisive."

She said the secret was to discuss sport in an inclusive way and to notice if people were blankly "staring into space" during the conversation.

What next?
And the majority of people responding to a LinkedIn post from the BBC appear to agree with Ms Oatley.

Office manager Debra Smyth worries that other topics such as Love Island, EastEnders and Game of Thrones could also be censored if sport chatter is banned.

"I personally think companies should not dictate what people talk about, as not talking about it will alienate those with similar interests," she said.

"Where would it end? Banning people with children talking about them so as not to alienate people without children. Certainly not!"

Recruiter Peter Ferguson said: "I have seen managers and staff build a more direct bond over a shared love of sport which has excluded those who don't share that interest.

"The answer is not to ban the conversation, it is to ensure managers and staff are trained to understand that those shared interests should not get in the way of management decisions or working collaboratively."
 
This clam can fudge off

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51261999

Chat about football or cricket in the workplace should be curtailed, a management body has warned.

Ann Francke, head of the Chartered Management Institute, said sports chat can exclude women and lead to more laddish behaviour.

"A lot of women, in particular, feel left out," she told the BBC's Today programme.

"They don't follow those sports and they don't like either being forced to talk about them or not being included."

"I have nothing against sports enthusiasts or cricket fans - that's great," she said.

"But the issue is many people aren't cricket fans," she added, arguing bosses should crack down on sports banter.

Ms Francke is concerned that discussing football and, for example, the merits of video assistant refereeing (VAR) can disproportionately exclude women and divide offices.

"It's a gateway to more laddish behaviour and - if it just goes unchecked - it's a signal of a more laddish culture," she said

"It's very easy for it to escalate from VAR talk and chat to slapping each other on the back and talking about their conquests at the weekend."

'Terrible idea'
Nevertheless, Ms Francke does not think sports chatter should be banned, just moderated.

She said that good managers should be inclusive and ensure that everyone in their team feels comfortable.

But sports journalist Jacqui Oatley thinks cracking down on sports chatter would be a "terrible idea".

"If you ban football chat or banter of any description, then all you're going to do it alienate the people who actually want to communicate with each other," she told the Today programme

"It would be so, so negative to tell people not to talk about sport because girls don't like it or women don't like it, that's far more divisive."

She said the secret was to discuss sport in an inclusive way and to notice if people were blankly "staring into space" during the conversation.

What next?
And the majority of people responding to a LinkedIn post from the BBC appear to agree with Ms Oatley.

Office manager Debra Smyth worries that other topics such as Love Island, EastEnders and Game of Thrones could also be censored if sport chatter is banned.

"I personally think companies should not dictate what people talk about, as not talking about it will alienate those with similar interests," she said.

"Where would it end? Banning people with children talking about them so as not to alienate people without children. Certainly not!"

Recruiter Peter Ferguson said: "I have seen managers and staff build a more direct bond over a shared love of sport which has excluded those who don't share that interest.

"The answer is not to ban the conversation, it is to ensure managers and staff are trained to understand that those shared interests should not get in the way of management decisions or working collaboratively."


Does this mean wimen can't talk about Hair dos, Love Island, periods, tinkling themselves and "that fat cow" in accounts?
 
Posted by the BBC

The fine upstanding corporation who turned a blind eye to Jimmy Saville and his mates fudging kids for 20 years
 
I heard it being discussed on the radio this morning and had to do a mental take on the date, as my first thought was that it was some sort of bad April Fool's joke.
As a woman who loves football and enjoys watching other sports, I found it quite insulting tbh, and incredibly patronising.
 
Hasn't she noticed the increased coverage of women's sport or the increased attendances of women at football matches. She's exhibiting the old-fashioned and sexist view that women aren't interested in sport.

They should have left her in the attic.
 
Most of the problems caused by football chat would be solved if they just banned any discussion from Liverpool fans about their club.

But, then, they don't factor much in a so-called 'workplace enviroment'.
 
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