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Darwin Nunez

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by jonathanhotspur, 31 Aug 2020.

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  1. IulianSteaua

    IulianSteaua Wilson Palacios

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    As long as we have Harry, we don't need to spend big on a striker. There are plenty of great deals out there, just like Perisic. Belotti is free for example. He would be a good cover for Kane.
     
  2. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    Depay in last year of his contract would be very cheap. Can also cover son.
     
  3. alekaras

    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    Yes. And some competition for Son, Kane, and Deki in the meantime In 2-3 years when the inevitable start of the decline for Son and Kane begins, we'll have someone who, if he develops as expected, will be an elite attacker entering his prime. Or maybe Kane doesn't sign a new contract. Or who knows what else might happen. That's what succession planning is all about and you don't want to wait until your back is against the wall to start. Liverpool already started by buying Diaz. We should follow their example.
     
  4. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    Kane and son have probably another 3 years in them at the top. Maybe more.

    Liverpool bought diaz because we bid for him. They knew that there was a good possibility mane, salah or both could leave this summer.

    £70m isn't succession planning. It's the most we've ever spent on a player.
     
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  5. Bullet

    Bullet Steffen Freund

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    Presumably if Mane leaves Liverpool, they will buy Darwin Nunez, simple pimple?
     
  6. alekaras

    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    Liverpool was planning to buy Diaz in the summer, but stepped up their timeline because they at risk of getting gazumped by us.

    But I agree, buying a player like Nunez is not just succession planning. Its for the here and now, too. After Kane and Son, and to a lesser extent Deki, the drop-off in attacking quality is quite steep. We need 4 quality attacking players. The higher the quality, the better. And we need to shake the pre-2019 mentality. Back then we would go for the cheap, available option that "could do a job." We're in a different league now. We should be going after the best players. I'm not advocating having two WC players for every position, but 4 elite players to play across the front line will mean plenty of playing time for all of them without a drop-off in quality, whether it's because we need to rotate them or one or more get injured. Once we have that, then we can add a "cheap, available option that could do a job."
     
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  7. alekaras

    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    Which is why we should buy him first, for the reasons I mentioned in the posts above. I don't think we will have trouble matching Liverpool's spending power. The issue will be how attractive we are to a player. Hopefully Conte and CL will help narrow that gap, at least for now.
     
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  8. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Les Ferdinand

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    Silly thread.
     
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  9. braineclipse

    braineclipse Gary Stevens

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    Before the cash injection I would agree.

    Now, pretty much still agree. But perhaps a slight chance?
     
  10. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    He is not like mane though so they would have to change their set up to accommodate him
    I think they have replaced mane with jota
     
  11. Raziel

    Raziel Paul Walsh

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    Agree Nunez is a more focused point, not the fluid three Pool's setup uses. It would require a shift of style.

    Depends on how much Pool has to spend, Jota, Diaz, Salah, Fermino, Minamino is still a fair bit of options. You probably need a body in with Mane & Origi going, but the place that really needs an upgrade is their midfield. If Salah fudges off as well, completely different story.
     
  12. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    The midfield has been the issue there for some time
    No goals in it and still a lack of creativity. Thiago hasn’t added anything to it IMO
    But I don’t see them buying anyone obvious so far
    Eriksen would be good option for them

    Edit - you have forgotten Carvalho and Elliott in your list.
     
  13. Raziel

    Raziel Paul Walsh

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    Don't think Klopp believes in midfield creativity (or makes it a priority), their midfield is simply to press and cover the spaces when FBs are high.

    But even if you just believe in workhorses, his workhorses are getting long in the tooth (Milner, Henderson)
     
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    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    I agree
    It’s why they struggle against teams that have quality’s and defend well
    They have no differentiator
    Keep on banging in crosses and hope that one makes it’s target
    Imagine if they had a midfielder who would step up with variety in creation and actually bang in a few goals when it mattered too
    Their go too now is take of a midfielder and chuck another forward on and keep on crossing (very simplified I know)
     
  15. braineclipse

    braineclipse Gary Stevens

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    Firmino looks well on his way down the decline. If Mane leaves I definitely think they will look for a first level quality signing for the front three.

    Thiago is the one real exception in midfield, and at times been really good. They may want another creative option there too.
     
  16. Raziel

    Raziel Paul Walsh

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    I think Klopp's tactics are quite simplistic, press relentlessly, hit long to wide runners, get into the box to 3 pacey forwards that overload and can finish.

    The system's absolute failure in 9 games this season (6 games against top 4 where they won none, and 3 cup finals that they scored zero goals) should be discussed, but instead the media wants to make out how unlucky they were and Madrid did a smash and grab ..

    Back to the point, be interesting with so many priorities, how much do they have to spend?
     
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    Raziel Paul Walsh

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    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    After losing out on haaland and mbappe surprised madrid haven't made a move.
     
  19. braineclipse

    braineclipse Gary Stevens

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    I agree on Diaz, not sure they would have signed him in January if we weren't after him.

    Would more bring up Jota as a comparison. They did manage with Salah, Mane and Firmino for a while there, in part by being quite lucky with injuries. But eventually brought in Jota, and needed him.

    If we want to compete in the PL and CL next season I think we need one more player much closer in quality to our current front three than what we get from Lucas. Preferably good enough to offer some competition or be very close to being a starter at the least.

    Hopefully doable within whatever budget we end up working with.
     
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  20. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Could it be because he's not seen as being at the same levels?
     
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