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Daniel Levy - Chairman

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Howard Webb, 8 Feb 2012.

  1. Bishop

    Bishop Mauricio Taricco

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    As per the last set of consolidated accounts Liverpool's wage bill is £145m more than our own. We pay no where near the renumeration that Liverpool do. The headline figure a star player isn't that relevant when you need to think of how many players they have on similar salaries and the pro rata rate of those Ayers not quite on those figures.

     
  2. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla John Lacy

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    I’d imagine win bonuses would be a major part of that wage disparity wouldn’t they? They must have averaged a million or so each from winning the league?
     
  3. parklane1

    parklane1 Terry Dyson

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    Two of the best posts i have seen on here, wish i could give them more then one like.
     
  4. Bishop

    Bishop Mauricio Taricco

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    I've never really seen a good breakdown of how Liverpool dole out their wages. They might be on big win bonuses I guess the next set of accounts will show that if there is a large drop in their wage costs.
     
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  5. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla John Lacy

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    No likewise, just guessing. I remember when we first qualified for the champions league our wages took a pretty big bump and that was due to qualification bonuses. Can only imagine what bonuses would be like for winning the league or Champions League which they did in successive seasons.
     
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  6. Bullet

    Bullet Steffen Freund

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    The Tweet you shared above says
    Despite the revenue fall, #LFC wage bill rose £16m (5%) from £310m to £326m. Highly incentivized bonus scheme for winning the Premier League, Champions League, etc. Wages have increased by £117m (56%) in the last 3 years, the highest growth of the Big Six.
     
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  7. Bishop

    Bishop Mauricio Taricco

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    It's the smart way to do things despite the figures being insane. I know we do similar, just need to start winnings things to get the wages up.
     
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  8. metalgear

    metalgear Jack Jull

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    Agree with the rest of the commentators being incredible and un-credible,but I think Ginola - someone of his stature and reputation - knows it when he says that players don't want to come to spurs now. Also if you watch the whole conversation, Ginola is pointing out he difference now and when we were in the champions league, and how it all slipped away from us for a lack of money. True on that point considering the zero transfer windows we had. I only focused on Ginola and didn't highlight any of the other commentators.
     
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  9. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Willie Hall

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    I still think Ginola is somewhat out of touch with the details of modern football personally, and he isn't exactly breaking the mould with his comments. That he solely seems to focus on money in our case is an example IMO; our issues were about a lot more than spending. We've all had that chat many times over :D
    I think it is clear what the biggest mistakes were in 2019 - we spent big money on players the-then manager wanted, only to sack him three months later. That was certainly not the only problem but it was a massive and indicative one, as it showed that whatever 'plan' or 'model' we believed we were being run on was simply not the case.
    Never forget, we clawed into 4th off that zero window and finally spent money. We were still in the CL that November, and there was plenty of time to potentially make up the ground necessary. It's history now of course, but IMO, when old hacks with little more credibility than Pete or Dave down the Dog & Duck pipe up with Captain Obvious stuff, I cannot buy it mate. As for Dyer (I know you didn't mention him so this is spinning off) he just comes across as a massive, massive numpty. Redknapp's bitterness couldn't be clearer.
    Anyway, we agree to disagree I suppose.
     
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  10. metalgear

    metalgear Jack Jull

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    Yep thanks for that. Ginola will always have a special place in my heart so I am biased!
     
  11. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    It's Pete here....Dave's just gone to the bar to get a round in....

    I think you've always commented they had a 'levelling up' meal? And also that Jose was up in the stand looming large?....both I agree with.

    Levy has obviously said to Poch that we now have some money, a decent budget to push forward with.
    What Levy hadn't noticed was Poch was drained. By Brighton away he was running on empty.

    With Levy's reputation for not spending money, he'd would have never sanctioned £130+ m in transfers out of sentiment for the manager that he intended on replacing 3 months in to the season. He read it that Poch was good for the next phase, a phase they'd all been holding out for.

    Most chairman are going to have a plan B when they realise something is terribly broken (including the man).

    Of course there is nuance within that...eg his two main new recruits were either not fit or injured, Sess was not ready (still isn't:(). And I personally would have given him more time. (And that's without the hindsight of who came and what followed). There is a chance that would have been a mistake as well, we're not close enough to know whether the reason he had to go was beyond team matters and more Pochs being mentally broken.
     
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  12. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Willie Hall

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    Yes mate, they did have a big meeting that summer.
    Mourinho showing up in the shadows was what -IMO- helped drain him once more. I believe (and this is my speculation) that he thought all was cleared. to then see that malevolence lurking was a serious destabilizer for everyone but especially Poch.
    Sessegnon? The biggest issue there is the rumor that he was a club buy and not a Poch target. Not sure if that is true or not, but has been a consistent rumor in my ear forever.
    I think that summer was a moment when he needed all-in togetherness; thought he had it, but then those shadows cast weird shapes on the walls and the light just kept on getting weirder...their 6-1 defeat today was excellent. clown shoe.
     
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    SpurMeUp Andy Thompson

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    I think part of the reason for Mourinho was Levy rolling the dice wishing to win a trophy and secure Kane. Up till December the next season the plan was going okay. That we didn't kick on from building a defensive foundation was the issue. And we lacked a player in midfield and defense. Levy was seduced by AVB and Mourinho. He thought both were special managers. And maybe Mourinho used to be, but I far prefer Nuno to either. Nuno has some of Mourinho's tactical nous and pragmatism but is hungry and fresher.

    Whether a player or a manager I'm also wary of taking on big clubs rejects. Levy has done a huge amount for Spurs, but hasn't always chosen the right leaders. You can see his logic, and why he's appointed who he has, but its a very personal thing and I don't think he's always pinpointed the best. That said, he recruited Poch, many were surprised. And he knew something, saw potential that fans didn't yet. I'm always more up for the Potters, Pochs, Nunos...the up-and-coming football men with a track record of making players better. Levy has always wanted to deliver quick results. But the truth of the matter is, results are built step by step, by a manager who has patience and ability to improve players and a team. It is not normally delivered overnight.
     
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    NaijaSpurs Paul Robinson

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    Whether or not anyone wanted Mourinho as manager, and I for one did not, you have to admit his recruitment was quick and slick, a few hours after his name came out in the media he was hired. Ditto, earlier this week Conte's name was out in the press and the deal was as good as done. These two well executed deals raise the question, how the heck could we get the hiring of a manager in the summer so spectacularly wrong?
     
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    Gazza Michael Carrick

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    Getting in a manager who wouldn't cost too much to bin if it goes tits up waiting for conte to be ready for the summer or sooner perhaps?
     
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    Baleforce Steve Archibald

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    I think it’s quite possible Levy was brutally honest with those they spoke to on our financial position at the time.
     
  17. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla John Lacy

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    Not going to pretend like I actually know what happened, I’ll leave that to others and other sites, but my two penneth worth…

    Fonseca was lined up as the attacking project manager, but then Levy thought he could get Poch and it seems Poch must have given the eyes that if he was sacked then he’d come, however that scenario didn’t arise and meant time spent waiting.

    Around that time Conte came up and discussions were had, this one never seemed realistic to me at the time. It seems now though that talks were far more serious than I had given them credit for.

    In the meantime Levy appointed Paratici and he didn’t fancy Fonseca, Poch couldn’t get out of PSG, so back to the drawing board with the season nearly upon us.

    i think we were caught chasing unicorns in Poch and Conte then ran out of time and options so ended up with Nuno on a short contract.
     
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    demotw Øyvind Leonhardsen

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    More likely based on what Conte said that he wanted to come but the time wasn't right, and assuming Conte was always first choice it was a case of finding a temporary to steady the ship until he was ready. Someone not too expensive that could be dropped after a year, thus the names Fonseca or Nunes over more established names. Would also explain the longer search in the summer as i expect they tried to convince Conte to change his mind.

    I doubt they forsaw needing to change after only a few months but think Levy/Patrici got who they actually wanted now.
     
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    LemonadeMoney Les Ferdinand

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    Can't wait for The Life and Times of Daniel Levy. So many untold stories! :)
     
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    NaijaSpurs Paul Robinson

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