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Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by heinoe, 12 Mar 2015.

  1. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Les Ferdinand

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    nayimfromthehalfwayline Andy Thompson

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    McCarthy has worked absolute wonders at Ipswitch.

    He has never been a coach to get teams playing like Barcelona, but he is tactically solid and does brilliantly with what he has.

    AND he has done some incredible transfer business considering they dont spend a penny. He even gets in players like Freddie Sears to do a decent job for him.

    He has had them in the play offs (or damn close) year after year despite the fact they are a low budget backwater club who have no right to be competing like that. He should be a legend up there, its shocking (and yet somehow expected) that the fans think they should be getting more out of him.
     
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    Heda SPURSCZ Steven Caulker

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    nayimfromthehalfwayline Andy Thompson

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    Interesting.

    Actually planning to use him? Or just protecting his value?

    Personally I was fully expecting him to be off this summer.
     
  5. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla Dean Richards

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    I’d suggest protecting his value, but he actually performed well on his loan spells for the most part. Ipswich like him and SheffUtd playedhim virtually every game for 1st half of the season when their results were good.
     
  6. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Yeah - ditto. IMO he's just way too immobile for a modern EPL CB.

    Maybe it's just another Stephen Kelly situation?
     
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    Raziel Jimmy Neighbour

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    Protecting value ..

    Will sell him on for 5 - 8M at some point, continue to fund the academy/youth/training investments.
     
  8. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Andy Thompson

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    I think this should be picked up on - this would be a massive success for us and our academy.

    The academy isnt all about producing first team players for Spurs.

    Its about producing professional footballers. Enough that it is a self sustaining (and even profitable?) enterprise. One that attracts talent because it is successful in building careers. Which means then, hopefully, we get to keep the cream of the crop for ourselves.

    Getting a player into our first team is an incredible achievement, but it is far from the only measure of success.
     
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    K.D.D.D.D.Soc Terry Venables

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    As a youngster he looked a great prospect, he's found the next step a bit harder. I believe you rarely see the best out of centre backs until they get past 25 and I hope that if he can't make it at Spurs he goes on the have a good career.
     
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    parklane1 Gary Stevens

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    Well with the likes of Jan, Sanchez, Foyth and maybe Toby here i would think its protecting his value.
     
  11. StephenH

    StephenH Chris Jones

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    I always thought he was a little on the short side!

    I know kettle and pot springs to mind:rolleyes:
     
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    K.D.D.D.D.Soc Terry Venables

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    That's the awful thing about modern professional sport, everyone must be a giant to get a chance, when I started going to football there a couple of England goalies who were no more than 5'8"
     
  13. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    There's still a position for most sizes - FB, AM or CM for those under 6'.

    Rugby is the great one for that - there's literally a position for every body size. Short and fat - front row, short and skinny - scrum half etc.
     
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    StephenH Chris Jones

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    Delete short. Replace with slight.
    Tall goal keepers and very logical? De Gea, Buffon and Neuer. Jennings was 6’ +?
    Centre half's not so much.
     
  15. K.D.D.D.D.Soc

    K.D.D.D.D.Soc Terry Venables

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    Have you seen any professional rugby matches lately? Virtual everyone is over 6' and over 14 stone, hookers and wingers now are big and front rows must be quick and be able to handle the ball.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Apparently Wenger and Bob Wilson were never keen on Ospina because he was only 6', and they felt a modern GK needed to be at least 6'2"

    It's also supposedly the reason we never signed Mat Ryan when he was on trial with us years - because he's 'only' 6' too
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Youngs, Care and Wigglesworth are all under 5'10".

    But yeah - Lomu changed wingers forever and front rows are definitely a lot more mobile since professionalism
     
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    K.D.D.D.D.Soc Terry Venables

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    I think Jennings and Shilton were perfect size for keepers, not too big and were agile, Jennings was one of the first keepers I saw that used his feet to save shots.
     
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    K.D.D.D.D.Soc Terry Venables

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    They are in the minority, the game has changed massively.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    I always think Fraser Forster is too tall - he can't get down quick enough. The sweet spot seems to be between about 6'2" and 6'4". 6'3" is the average for top flight keepers.
     

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