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Are we another Leeds Utd, NewCastle Utd?

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by spurs' magna carter, 15 Aug 2015.

  1. spurs' magna carter

    spurs' magna carter Sebastien Bassong

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    As another disappointing result drains the life out of me I look at what we are and on how Earth we're going to turn it around.

    I've supported this club for just over 20 years and what we've achieved in that time goes as follows:

    Highest league finish: 4th (2010, 2012)
    FA Cup: S/F (1999, 2001, 2010, 2012)
    League Cup: winners (1999, 2008). Runners up (2002, 2009, 2015)
    Europe: Q/F (EL 2007, CL 2011)

    Pitiful.

    For 6 consecutive seasons we've finished in the top 6, yet we've won nothing. We're just nearly men, nothing else.

    Which begs the Q are we the 10s version of the famous Newcastle and Leeds sides of the 90s and early 00s?

    Personally I think we are.

    I believe in what Poch is doing, despite the frustrations and limitations of playing kids it's better than being shafted like we were with the magnificent 7. When they trip up like they did today you know it's all part of the learning curve. Above all else it's bloody brilliant watching so many from the academy get given the chance because they actually deserve it, as well know the club inside out. Unless we start winning some silverware this club will go down the same downwards slope that those two did.

    The only way you can create a winning meteorology is by winning some silverware, please don't embarrass yourself by trying to tell me otherwise.

    "Spurs have got to be the best in the land, not the second best"

    Bill Nicholson.
     
  2. Raziel

    Raziel Jimmy Neighbour

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    Difference with those teams is they fudged up their own destiny ...

    Our chance at glory was fudged up by a Russian and a Sheik ..
     
  3. Craig_J

    Craig_J Alan Hutton

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    Yes, we are those teams. If anything we might not even match up to them. Newcastle, if I remember rightly, had a few seasons in the Champions League as did Leeds and we've only had one.

    Like Raziel says it's funny to think of how many top four finishes we would've had without Abromovich and Mansour. Probably would've been our 10th season in the Champions League right now, but that's just our luck.

    Only way we can push on away from that sort of level is finishing in the Champions League for consecutive seasons and expanding our 'portfolio'. The stadium should help our chances of cracking it but even then it's still a lot to ask when you consider the spending power the top four have and the fact they all do, or will in the case of Chelsea and City, have stadiums just as big as ours soon enough anyway.
     
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  4. monkeybarry

    monkeybarry John Lacy

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    I do envy the barcodes and dirty leeds - will we ever get to feel the excitement of a push for the play offs or promotion?
    Sigh
     
  5. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    I'll be in the bathroom...damn, who hid the razors?
     
  6. camspur

    camspur Neil Sullivan

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    In a single word NO.

    Leeds have won 2 major trophies in the last 40 years and are in the Championship, Newcastle last won a major trophy in 1969 and it's debatable whether that counts. We've had more success in the last 15 years than they ahve combined in the last 40.
     
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  7. WestBerkshire

    WestBerkshire Noé Pamarot

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    Pretty much imo. All 3 clubs have owners who just see the club as a cash cow and don't have any real interest in pushing the club forward and winning things. Sad but true.
     
  8. spurs' magna carter

    spurs' magna carter Sebastien Bassong

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    I know that but I'm talking of the Newcastle Utd of 1994 - 2005 and the Leeds Utd of 1997 - 2002. They were like us now, always in the top 6 aspiring to be in the CL but failing most seasons to do so and winning fook all in the process.

    Two League cups in 23 years and people wonder why we don't have a winning meteorology. Jesus.
     
  9. camspur

    camspur Neil Sullivan

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    Those periods of success were in the main all pre-Abramovich and in a period when we were happy to finish 12th. Until our owner lends us £709m over the next 6 years to build a squad to compete we won't but we sure won't disappear into the Championship like NUFC and LUFC did.
     
  10. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover the prettiest spice girl

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    I think people get upset to quickly, back in my day we did not even have league tables to look at till the end of October.

    I like our manager he gets us playing football the right way he makes mistakes but I am convinced the only way we can improve as a club is to grow with a manager and that means sticking with him over the next few years as he improves just as we look for players to improve.

    The club is going in the right direction and I am happy.
     
  11. camspur

    camspur Neil Sullivan

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    Thank you, a sane voice at last.
     
  12. Cochise

    Cochise Steve Carr

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    Don't jump
     
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    Bullet Cecil Poynton

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    Laughable comparison, what a strange thought you had magna carter.
     
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  14. Gazzasrightboot

    Gazzasrightboot Pascal Chimbonda

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    Couldn't have said it better.
     
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  15. parklane1

    parklane1 Gary Stevens

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    Now you know a common sense post is not needed when its kneejerk time ;)
     
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  16. NWND

    NWND Banned

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    In what way are our owners getting any money from Spurs?
     
  17. parklane1

    parklane1 Gary Stevens

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    In your eyes maybe, but thank GHod most Spurs fans see it different.
     
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  18. WestBerkshire

    WestBerkshire Noé Pamarot

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    To start with levy reportedly best paid chairman in the country paying himself a cool 2 mill a year. Well earned I suppose after selling best players
     
  19. NWND

    NWND Banned

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    You said owners. Who do you think owns Spurs? And how do you think they are using Spurs as a cash-cow?
     
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  20. WestBerkshire

    WestBerkshire Noé Pamarot

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    ENIC which is owned by levy and lewis on the most part. Please don't tell me you're naive enough to think lewis doesn't take a wage out of the club too?
     

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