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Climate Change

SkipRat said:
Problem is, that is just a buzz word and most of carbon footprint is being moved abroad and the burden placed on developing countries.

It's these buzz words that are a bane of politics.

We should be selling the idea not of because of "net zero," but rather because unlimited green energy will be life saver of British manufacturing, cheap energy for the people and households... Which is great for business. Just look at Port Talbot. It is actually really important for national security producing steel, as it is the back bone of everything will build. It's single biggest cost is energy, and its making a loss, because of the cost of energy.

Would it be wise to, had it over the Chinese for cheap steel, in the same way the EU sold their soul to Russia for cheap gas, thinking that this would change his ways?

But your last sentence as whole, is absolutely spot on and I couldn't agree more even if I tried. Winner winner, chicken dinner.
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That's simply untrue. Their accounts are published at Companies House and, unlike our chancellor, I suspect they're telling the truth in their submissions.
 
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ricky2tricky4city said:
Well, this is a conundrum.

www.bbc.co.uk

Data centres to be expanded across UK as concerns mount

The number of data centres is set to jump by a fifth in the coming years, figures seen by the BBC suggest.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Don't google and microsoft get most of their power from renewables anyway? Get them to put some solar panels on the roof and build a few wind turbines. Cost of electricity in the uk they could sell some back to the grid and make some profit.
 
Lilbaz said:
Don't google and microsoft get most of their power from renewables anyway? Get them to put some solar panels on the roof and build a few wind turbines. Cost of electricity in the uk they could sell some back to the grid and make some profit.
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I think you're underestimating the power consumption of these buildings

But I agree totally that all industrial units should at the very least have their roofs covered in solar panels (mandatory planning condition)
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
I think you're underestimating the power consumption of these buildings

But I agree totally that all industrial units should at the very least have their roofs covered in solar panels (mandatory planning condition)
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Not really. A small data center uses about 10-50kw of energy. A hyperscale data center uses about 10MW of electricity.
An onshore wind turbine generates 2.5 - 3 MW (equivalent of 1500 homes).
 
Was reading about Spanish solar farms on the way home - essentially the Spanish government forgot to invest in the grid and shut down most of Spain and Portugal because of the instable currents from solar farms.

We need to legislate so high use factories or data centres install their own power supplies, which should be appropraite to peek use. So solar if a day-only site. Wind or water turbines, or batteries, if needed after dark etc. That way there wouldn't been any issues with the grid. Seems obvious? My biz has a tonne of solar on the roof and in the summer we don't use it all, it does feed into the grid. Works well. Less impressive in the winter!
 
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