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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I know it is complicated. I just wonder how you can make a quote of 'fair share' while having no idea how to define a fair share. If we can't put numbers on the UK's intake then how can we ever devise, cost out, finance and then implement a coherent policy? Do you disagree with my point that...
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    For london voters

    So you consider the West Bank to be part of Israel? I'm pretty sure it's not (though I confess I'm not very knowledgeable on Israel and the Middle East, perhaps the borders are different to what I understand them to be?) Personally I consider neither the West Bank or Gaza to be part of Israel...
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    Ah Ok. I did wonder if it was that bit in particular. I'll give you my reason for using the term that I did.... I consider illiberal places to be backward. Anywhere that doesn't give equal rights to those based on sex, sexuality or religion (or lack of) are illiberal in my opinion (and that...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    So your answer is 'it is too complicated a question to answer'. Maybe it's just me(?) but I see that as not answering the question at all. If it is too complicated to be able to define what a 'fair share' is then why did you make a statement in an earlier post about the UK potentially avoiding...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    No you didn't answer it. Any actual answer would've been to my liking as it would've provided a reference number that we could then debate whether that number was 'fair' and also whether it is affordable/supportable. You instead completely avoided answering the question. I'll say here...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Sorry but you haven't answered my question at all. In fact you have completely avoided it. I think people tend to avoid that question because they know that if they had to stand behind a number it would be absolutely huge and be all too evident how unsustainable it is. So let's go again...
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    For london voters

    @LutonSpurs you laughed at my post but I'm interested in what about the post you found laughable? Do you disagree that Israel operates a democracy where all faiths are allowed to be practiced and all citizens can be educated, work and vote whatever their race, religion, gender or sexuality?
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    For london voters

    Not being Israeli or jewish I'm not close to being an expert on all things Israel. However, I had always thought Israel was a democratic and reasonably tolerant state that allowed all faiths to be practiced and all citizens to be educated, work and vote whatever their race, religion, gender or...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Thanks. But, again, what is a 'fair share'? and which countries does the UK share that 'fair share' number with?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I don't think it is about people living in 'poor' countries at all. I think it is about people living in countries where there is no respect for human rights. You say my post is shocking but you haven't attempted to answer the question I posted in it. What is a 'fair share' and with which...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I do consider them as people and I have compassion for people who are in terrible situations through no fault of their own. But that doesn't answer my question. What is our 'fair share' and with which countries do we share our 'fair share' responsibility with? If we answer that question then...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    You want me to list out the things that don't incur VAT?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Sorry I don’t know what you mean by your comment that I’ll have to ‘try harder than that’? To go on to the figures you have links to it is difficult to interpret much from those (especially now that universal credit has replaced other forms of income support. Something I did see from the...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    What is a “fair share’? How many billions of people live in backward, illiberal brickholes? With which countries do we share responsibility for the people in those backward, illiberal brickholes?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I’d go for things that do not incur VAT.
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    So to actually answer my question, you don’t have any evidence? Even though you didn’t answer mine, I will answer yours… 1. Sole aim and ambition? No…. Though I think there are too many people not prepared to take financial responsibility for themselves and their family and expect the state...
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    Hopefully people won’t fall for the old ‘Brexit’ trick. I’m sure we have an oven ready deal there to replace ECHR - yeah right! IMO the only way anyone should ever vote (if it went to a vote) to leave the ECHR would be if a replacement was actually already agreed and the exact terms and...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    How many kids do you have?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Why should we agree to that? What evidence do you have for it?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I don't know the exact figure. I read somewhere that each person costs the government £17k a year. You'd have to earn around £65k to pay that much in tax and NI. This is a little old but halfway down shows that 53% are net recipients...
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