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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Which was nothing to do with Redknapp? He signed Hartson in the first place and then sold him for a big profit and reinvested in Di Canio. Pretty good going, I would say. It wasn't just a case of the quality coming through the ranks, he 'wheeled and dealed' really well, as much as he might hate...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Well, it is novelty to hear someone defend his time but I can't agree. We were heading for our 2nd relegation battle in two years. Just not on with the quality had he available. And I wouldn't just blame his sacking on football ignorant people on the board. It is worth remembering that the fans...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Bit harsh to say he was sacked by Madrid. He went in when they were about 5th, went on a hell of a winning run and only really got turned over by Barcelona. I don't think he did himself any harm there at all. He has basically dropped out by going to the Ukraine for the money. I'm sure he could...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Yep, I think the rot started under Ossie, and apart from a brief upturn under Francis, it actually continued until Hoddle arrived. I think Hoddle actually came in after a long period of decline, with little money (as Graham before him even said: 'limited resources') having to deal with the...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    He quite probably would have signed more of his old mates from Swindon and Saudi Sportswashing Machine! I mean, fudges sake, what was Calderwood, Kerslake and Kevin Scott all about? Rosenthal replaced Sheringham when he broke his leg. Again, WTF? Jason Dozzell? Ossie wasted a fair bit too in his short time...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    So he was a key player... but they let his contract wind down and then released him?
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    It would have been a bit of a turn up for the books if we just released a guy on free who was one of, if not our best performer and who got into the PFA team of the year. Not really comparable with Gera, I think. Probably more comparable with releasing someone like Anderton, who *was* a key...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    But doesn't the release on a free kind of suggest he was probably one of the weaker links rather than key? I know the fans might disgaree on that but it is obvious what Jol thought given he let him go.
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    He was awful, fella. The decent year and a half he had was because he inherited some good players: Sheringham, Klinsmann, Barmby, Anderton, Popescu, Mabbutt... a young Stephen Carr and Sol Campbell were coming through. All mostly the good work of Venables, who didn't get to build on it... then...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    And I'm not even knocking Jol there. I was just saying he's done okay at Fulham but nothing to suggest he'll be in line for the type of jobs he had before. The trouble is people get a bit funny when, rather than comparing Jol with just Glenn Hoddle, George Graham, Christian Gross or Ossie...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Surely what Jol thought counts for more? Gera was such a key player he let him leave on a free to WBA. He had Zamora until the end of January. So more than half the season. So at worst he lost one key player for about 1/3 the season. Ruiz was signed in the summer. Point still remains. Hughes...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Eh? We in the top 4 for pretty much the whole season? IIRC, in 06/07 we weren't in the top 8 for any period apart from the last 2 or 3 games. I'm not saying the final positions can be disputed but there is an obvious difference being up there and putting pressure on Arsenal all season and...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    No, it didn't. We were nowhere near challenging Arsenal in 06/07. We spent most of the season in midtable and only a rally late got us there. Very different from the season before we were there or threreabouts for nearly the whole of the season We finisher closer to Reading, Bolton, Pompey in...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    No, I think you've picked up parts of what I've said and tried to lump them together. It was two seperate points. Some clubs have achieved the same with little or no money. Others were/have been in and around the top 6 with a fraction of the resources Jol had at his disposal. Even your own stats...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    It also means the issue can be muddled because the ability of individual squads and players is very subjective, whereas the spending power of specific clubs is a bit more measurable? No? It doesn't take a genius to work out why Emirates Marketing Project went from 10th to Champions in the space of a few years.
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    They had some good players, for sure, but we had far more clout and I don't think Arnesen's or Comolli's efforts in getting good value deals done can be much doubted. This compares with the situation in 2009 when Emirates Marketing Project were into the 3rd year of throwing their weight about, we had Liverpool...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Ipswich finished 5th? West Ham 5th? Nevermind spending, West Ham were probably in the black over that period. All the rest were in and around the top 6 and/or qualified for Europe. And I seriously doubt some of those figures are net spends. Everton 29m in one summer? Maybe the year they sold...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    2 years after. That was 03/04. They went from 90 points then to 67 in 2005/06. They were struggling to deal with the lost of Vieira, in particular. Bergkamp, Campbell and Pires were all fading fast and were all replaced the following season. And they had been massive for them. This was among a...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    Yes but this is partly the point. They did that well thanks to a sterling efforts of a particular manager because, by rights, they simply didn't have the resources to be anywhere near us or Arsenal. As I said, it puts Jol's achievements in perspective. Yes, he was better than those who went...
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    Who is the best Spurs manager/coach of the Premier League era?

    We finished 2 points behind Arsenal in 05/06.... and 2 ahead of Blackburn. The next year, 8 points behind Arsenal, 5 points ahead of Reading, 4 ahead of Bolton! I think that puts things into perspective!
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