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    Relegation Battle Watch

    I wouldn't have Wenger ahead him for the last 8 years or so anyway. Redknapp has at least won a major trophy in that time with relative minnows and generally done well with less resources. Mourinho a better manager maybe but really that much of a better record in the PL? He managed Chelsea at a...
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    Relegation Battle Watch

    I think to be fair to Hughes, they are parallels with Redknapp when he went into Tottenham. We had a good squad but we had probably changed the squad too quickly and we were hopelessly unbalanced. Much the same was true at QPR, although I don't think the situation was that dire. Hughes actually...
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    Relegation Battle Watch

    Relegated once with Southampton that I can recall? Nowhere near with anyone else. The QPR turnaround is something else. If he pulls it off, possibly a greater escape than the one with Pompey when he went back there and certainly with us (although the real impressive feat there was nearly getting...
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    Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach

    Armstrong was good for that era but the standard of the division went through the roof between circa 1995-1999, when the likes of Bergkamp, Ravenelli, Zola, Anelka etc started arriving. That suddenly made him look quite ordinary. And the injuries hit him hard too. But that first season he was...
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    Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach

    So many? It was mostly just criticism of our performances, and even then from a small minority, in amongst a few idiots calling for him to go post-Arsenal. And given some of those were from new signs up who hadn't posted much, it could well be other fans taking the pish. Either way, I wouldn't...
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Exactly. Although I disagree with your solution. If anything, it just hands more prestige to the Champions League if you say the winners get a place in it. Surely it should be regarded as a major standalone achievement?
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League It doesn't. Those teams in 86/87 would have generally qualified in 2nd-4th in their respective leagues. Nothing can bridge that gap in quality between the Uefa and Europa now, even if you threw in half the English, Spanish and Italian leagues from 4th/5th downwards...
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League It is relevant because they were higher placed than the Napoli of today - who would not have even been in European competition with a 5th place finish previously.
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Eh? My point was that it was a stronger competition because it had higher placed teams in it. This is just fact. Having more teams in the Europa League now? So what? The Championship has more clubs and games than the Premier League - anyone think that is a stronger...
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Yes, In 5th place. They would not have even qualified in that position in 1985, when they probably finished 2nd or 3rd with Maradona! I rest my case! :lol:
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Slovenia and Macedonia used to be part of Yugoslavia. The Yugoslav league had Red Star, Partizan Belgrade, Dinamo Zagreb, Hajduk Split.... see the point? Or perhaps not, depending on your age!
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Exactly. This shows the folly of looking at lists of clubs from different eras. Napoli, not a major name but a force back then because of Maradona.
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League League tables. Do you doubt the higher placed clubs would be in the Uefa Cup? And if league tables aren't an indicator of who are or are not stronger teams then why bother with them? Maybe a panel could come together at the start of the season to decide who is best...
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League The Uefa Cup. It had better teams in it, based on actual league tables and not subjective opinion.
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Sorry but the old Uefa Cup had teams from 2nd-4th in the top leagues, it now has 4th-6th and domestic cup winners and champions league drop outs/non-qualifiers. If you can't see why the former was the strongest competition then it is time to have a lie down!
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Exactly. There was little between them. Both big deals to win. The differences between the CL and the EL are huge in comparison. Not just in the perception of the fans but the owners and the players too.
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Nothing to do with advertising. It is the facts of the way you qualify for each competition. The Uefa Cup before the expanded EC had teams circa 2nd-4th in the top leagues. So who cares how many more games you need to play now - it was obviously a stronger competition...
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Simply wrong. They changed the qualification rules along with the name, which made a massive difference. Not just to the other European competitions but to domestic trophies too. And the latter was especially true in this country. There was little between the EC and...
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Galatasaray? But that was well after the introduction of the CL. I'm taking in the days before that. Back then, winning a European trophy was winning a European trophy. The rank formerly went 1) EC 2) Uefa 3) CWC but you could throw a blanket over them. They were all...
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    O/T European Cup Changes?

    Re: O/T Champions League Dunno, I think this is half the problem. It will always be the 2nd trophy. The CWC, Uefa and European Cup were all prestigious trophies with a combination of all the top teams in Europe. Now all the top teams are in the CL, full stop. So this just seems like a logical...
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