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  1. Richie

    Politics, politics, politics

    Re: European Elections, UKIP Tops British Polls I'd never vote for the Greens in a million years but it comes across very dismissive of other political views to imply that people won't vote for the Greens because they don't care about helping the less fortunate. That may not have been your...
  2. Richie

    Politics, politics, politics

    Re: European Elections, UKIP Tops British Polls While I somewhat agree with the sentiment that change is needed in politics, whenever people talk of 'revolution' (peaceful or otherwise) it should rapidly become clear that not everyone wants to see the same type of change. Non-voters are just...
  3. Richie

    Politics, politics, politics

    Re: European Elections, UKIP Tops British Polls I think this is because there are simply no conviction politicians on the front benches these days. Cameron, Milliband and the rest just say what they think people want to hear and what they think will get them votes. Of course I accept all...
  4. Richie

    Ched Evans

    You can deplore the abuse his victim has received while also holding the view that he has the right to play football again, they aren't mutually exclusive. You mention the 'spotlight', but the will-he-wont-he saga about signing for a club is garnering far more attention that him playing would...
  5. Richie

    Ched Evans

    Any time people talk about sports stars being role models, I think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gqk4WPnrpM
  6. Richie

    Ched Evans

    There's far more to this than 'end of story'. Where is the tipping point? At what point does a woman (or man for that matter) go from bring able to being unable to consent?
  7. Richie

    Ched Evans

    I'd strongly suggest at the very least making a decision from facts via an impartial website. Clearly Ched Evans site is going to have some bias. This website seems to be presenting an impartial summary with a link to the full court transcript...
  8. Richie

    Ched Evans

    Someone earlier asked me about a player signing for Spurs and my answer is I don't know. I'm absolutely not defending the guy, he has been convicted and that's that, my argument is more in the defence of ex-cons in general. Some convicts are banned from working in certain professions because...
  9. Richie

    Ched Evans

    Mike Tyson spent 3 years in prison for *struggle cuddle* so that is perhaps an interesting comparison. It's slightly different as it's an individual sport, I wonder how people feel about his return to boxing. I'm sure there would have been a similar campaign against him although I would have been too young...
  10. Richie

    Ched Evans

    What a ridiculous inference from the case. I'm not going to defend what he did, but you're just making things up with no evidence. If you'd like to know the details of the case, they are presented here https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-ched-evans-chedwyn-evans. Here's the quote from that page...
  11. Richie

    Ched Evans

    So you wouldn't employ anyone who has committed any of those crimes in any field? If that's the case, why not just execute them and be done with it? I am a firm believer in the system that the courts get to punish you and once you have served your time you are the same as any other citizen. If...
  12. Richie

    Ched Evans

    I've spent a good 20 minutes thinking about this and honestly, I dont know. As a fan I personally would consider petitioning the club not to do it (and not through a ridiculous petition website like change.org), and I would absolutely consider boycotting the club while that person played for us...
  13. Richie

    Ched Evans

    I understand why a convicted pedophile is banned from working with children for example, and I'd have a hard time arguing that they should be allowed to, but I think it's an interesting topic. It's a much more extreme case of course, but if the person is thought to have a risk of committing the...
  14. Richie

    Ched Evans

    I thought about this, but these aren't customers complaining. I'd be shocked if many of these 26,000 signatories had even heard of Oldham Athletic before they signed the petition. They believe he shouldn't be allowed to be a footballer on principle. If this were the supporters trust running a...
  15. Richie

    Ched Evans

    I don't think he's 'entitled' to a job as a footballer, but it's the profession in which he is trained and qualified for. He doesn't put anyone else directly at risk by working with vulnerable people (as opposed to a teacher for example) so I frame it as 'why isn't he entitled to a job as a...
  16. Richie

    Ched Evans

    Also I can't stress how much I despise when politics gets involved in football. Politicians who think it'll make them look 'in touch' to talk about their local club
  17. Richie

    Ched Evans

    Online petition: 26,000 signatures (and counting) Oldham average attendance: 4,094 This has become a crusade against the guy. I agree with what someone above me has said, in the eyes of the law he is guilty and therefore my opinion of the judgement is irrelevant, but he has paid his debt to...
  18. Richie

    The NFL Thread

    It's impossible to compare American teams to British teams, the draft makes it much more even. Five years ago the Seahawks were one of the worst teams in the league, now they're favourites to win their second Superbowl in a row. Premiership teams are stuck in their tiers which they will never...
  19. Richie

    Fitness help

    Probably not helpful but it sounds like you need to just take up a sport to keep yourself interested
  20. Richie

    The Cricket Thread

    Wicket taken, Cook 34 (41) while Moeen 48* (27) Is Cook really a one day player? The pace of the game doesn't suit his ODI career strike rate of 77
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