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    ENIC

    Not convinced by that. Saudi Sportswashing Machine are running very close to the limit of FFP and that already involves the owners putting money in, it is that they can only put in a limited amount due to FFP.
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    Ange in or out?

    Indeed. Amorim is a very good manager but will need time, whether he will get that I'm not sure. He was probably the right manager to bring to Spurs after sacking Conte, as the way he shapes the team and some of his principles are similar (not that I ever expect Spurs to have much in the way...
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    Ange in or out?

    If we don't win the Europa then he loses his job at the end of the season. I suspect everyone on this forum feels that Ange will be fired if we do not win the Europa. There is no argument there.
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    Ange in or out?

    I don't want Spurs to 'compete' for trophies, that is what our chairman talks about far too often, I want Spurs to actually WIN trophies, which is what the owners of e.g. Liverpool talk about.
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    Ange in or out?

    You might want to read my message again.... I had merely put the two of them in the same sentence to set a quality range with a lot of distance between the two players. I then said that IMO Lamela was closer in that range to Sinton than he was to Anderton.
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    Ange in or out?

    If he simply repeated that and went 5th place, trophy in every two seasons from then on then he would be Spurs greatest ever manager by a big margin. ;) The hypothetical cup win is extremely pertinent to the conversation as the whole point was that if (and I agree it is a big IF) Spurs happen...
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    Ange in or out?

    If Spurs win the Europea League under Ange this season. His record would be: 5th in the PL and 1 x Europa League trophy in his two seasons. That is WAY better than finishing in 4th place and winning nothing. Unfortunately, I don't think we can hope for better than that. Not without new...
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    Ange in or out?

    Man Utd winning the FA Cup is not a particularly big thing, they have won about 45 major titles in their history with 20+ of them coming in the last 25 years. Spurs winning the Europa is a massive thing. We've won 17 major trophies in our history with only 1 of them coming in the last 25 years.
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    ENIC

    One season is a tiny sample size. It is also more difficult for English teams to go all the way in Europe because, unlike the big teams in the other major European leagues, the standard of the overall league competition is much better so it is much more difficult to rest players for European games.
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    ENIC

    Yet it is only England with teams in the bottom half of the table (and likely to finish in the bottom half) still in there....
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    ENIC

    Sorry but I just don't agree that suddenly there are less talented footballers in the world. I suspect levels of talent in footballers have always followed a similar path with a top 10% then another 10% etc, etc.... The difference is that now more of that top N% of players are playing their...
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    ENIC

    No real change there IMO, in fact I'd say that years ago there used to be a whole bunch of players in teams who had very little skill, they could even get as far as playing for England. Nowadays you can't make it in the game without having good ability on the ball. And having good ability on...
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    ENIC

    Your words were that 'the PL is weak as pee water in the minute'. Yet the evidence suggests otherwise (highest UEFA coefficient, most clubs still in Europe and clubs as low as 9th in the Champs League last 8 and 13th and 14th in the Europa league last 8). If the PL really was as "weak as pee...
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    Ange in or out?

    Sad (and telling) that 'pushing for 4th repeatedly' is considered what is needed for a manager to survive long term at Spurs.
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    ENIC

    I, again, disagree. There used to be a big distinction between the footballers and the athletes. That used to make the footballers stand out as being really good. Nowadays being a good athlete is just table stakes. Both fitness and the tactical side of the game have improved massively. I...
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    ENIC

    Again, I disagree, I think it can only be a reflection of the quality of the Prem. What other league could ever have two teams in 13th and 14th place in their domestic league in the last 8 of the Europa? The Italian League was great in the 90s because they had the money to buy lots of good...
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    ENIC

    Both Spurs and Man Utd are in the last 8 of the Europa League, yet are 13th and 14th in the Premier League. Aston Villa are in the last 8 of the Champions League and yet only 9th in the Premier League. That shows how good the Premier League is IMO.
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    Ange in or out?

    You'd sack him because, at present, he hasn't won the Europa League and it still looks to be an outside bet. Get the point of that balmy night in May and Sonny lifting the trophy and I think you would've changed your mind (I'd question you if you hadn't). The whole point of competing is...
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    Ange in or out?

    Unfortunately Chelsea now have a much better history than we do so he is up against lots of other serial trophy winners but yes winning Chelsea's first Champions League and the FA Cup certainly puts him up there amongst their better managers.
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    Ange in or out?

    Yeah because the League Cup is on a par with Europa League isn't it! :rolleyes:
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