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    Ange in or out?

    They quote that because they know how it would look if they said: "I've joined Emirates Marketing Project because they agreed to pay me four times as much as I earn at <previous club>" . If ourselves and Liverpool want the same player and offer the same wages then, yes of course, they go to Liverpool because...
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    Ange in or out?

    FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League. I have no idea how any supporter of Tottenham would turn their nose up at winning any of those trophies.
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    ENIC

    Yes but you were originally suggesting it is because they don't care and don't want to spend. When it is the other way round (as you have it in this post). They cannot spend any more than they currently are as they are already very close to FFP limits. Unlike us, I bet Saudi Sportswashing Machine continue to...
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    ENIC

    Saudi Sportswashing Machine have just won their first trophy in about 70 years! Their Saudi owners are running them very close to FFP limits. There isn't really anything more they could've done at this stage. Now that the legal case is complete re: in-house sponsorships and fair value I suspect we'll see some...
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    Ange in or out?

    Imagine being in a position where only winning a trophy every season wasn't considered ambitious enough? :tearsofjoy:
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    Ange in or out?

    I'd happily languish in 14th/15th in the table for the next 20 years if we won a pot every season!
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    ENIC

    What?!?.... @Bedfordspurs replied back to my post saying 'Exactly my point'
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    ENIC

    They are already injecting funds at the level that allows them to run at close to the maximum allowed FFP loss. IMO they haven't yet conjured up a big sponsorship deal due to the case that was running regarding in-house sponorship and fair value. I suspect that will change in the near future...
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    Ange in or out?

    No, what they would say is: "Brilliant work in winning the Europa League Ange, what do you need for us to go on and win the Premier League and the Champions League next season?"
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    Ange in or out?

    You've posted this in response to my post of 'if we repeated 5th, trophy every two years from then on'. IF he did that (and I know it is hypothetical and a big IF, then he would undisputedly be Tottenham's greatest ever manager. Do I think Ange is good enough? No. However, I have absolutely...
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    Ange in or out?

    I can only imagine the smile on Guardiola's face once he read that Mourinho had been sacked and we'd be going into the final managed by Ryan Mason (though I suppose it could've been a mixed look of 'WHO?!?' puzzlement on his face as well as the smile)
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    Ange in or out?

    Didn't you say that after they broke?
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    Ange in or out?

    Lol..... Just like how Ryan Mason didn't bring us home the League Cup in 2021 after Mourinho had been sacked eh? Or how Stellini and Mason managed to turn 4th place to 8th place, winning a massive 11 points out of a possible 30 in 2023 after Conte had been sacked?
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    Ange in or out?

    All fair comments IMO. Suspect if Ange is at a PL club in future that has qualified for European competition he would ensure he filled his whole PL squad quota and did so by bringing in and/or not letting go of a few experienced players.
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    Ange in or out?

    We don't even manage the odd cup win every 10 years. We've won only one trophy under ENIC. A dozen English clubs have won trophies since we last won one. You can go ahead believing that the odd cup win every 10 years won't result in a longer period of success. I'd rather we actually get a...
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    Ange in or out?

    The problem is that when we get to a position where we can 'compete' the current owners seem to be happy and the cheque book is put away. The truly big teams that do win things do so because their aim is winning, not competing. We need owners who's ambition is to win and not merely 'compete'.
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    Ange in or out?

    But who cares? What glory is there in winning the "Arsene Wenger top 4 trophy"?
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    ENIC

    Their actions do not reflect that. They are running up to their FFP limit.
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    ENIC

    Not true. Losses allowed under FFP only relate to specific things (mens first team squad and coaching staffs transfer cost (amortised over length of contract) + wages + agents fees - player sales. We get nowhere near the allowed losses for FFP limits. Our losses are mainly due to...
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    ENIC

    But the big teams in Italy, Spain, France and Germany can rest players against all but the top 5 or 6 clubs and still know that they are very likely to win. The strength in depth in the Premier League doesn't afford that luxury to the top 4 clubs here.
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