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The *WHEN* we go down thread

I thought the rumour was that he was waiting to see whether we get relegated or not. Relegated and he doesn't join us. (Oh - have I just found a plus point to relegation?).

In fairness I've not read further than the headline, but if he is type of signing we are looking to make then if by some miracle we survive this season I doubt will survive next season.
 
This.

We’re one of the bigger fish in the PL pond but we’ll be by far the biggest fish in Championship and every other team in the division will be looking to scalp us, just as every visiting team has enjoyed taking 3 points from our £billion stadium in recent years.

Anyone who thinks that we’ll be basking in the glory of 3 points every week if we drop down might be in for a rude awakening, just like our Winks and Skipp have been at League One bound Leicester…

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Ive watched some of their games. It amazes me how poor Winks is and how he ever gets picked. He just strolls around being as far away from the action as possible. Banking 90k a week in the process. We did well to get 20 mill for him.
 
In an ideal world Lange and VV aren’t at the club past the final whistle against Everton, regardless of what league we’re in next year. Useless planks who are too scared to make a decision and come primed with excuses.

The Nepos on the other hand? The rumours of them wanting to sell will be up in the air now as the price of the club will be drastically less than it currently is if we’re relegated.

Years of downward trajectory sped up by an injury crisis with no one willing to take responsibility. Laughably bad way to run a club
 
Relegation is going to mean redundancies and massive cut in the wage bill and I just wonder out of our squad who goes and who stays , a lot of them are going to find getting anywhere near what they have been getting at Spurs hard to match.

Had a look at some Championship club wage costs, we probably have twice as many employees as some of them , our total wage bill in the last accounts was £255 million.
Leicester it looks like had a bill of £152 million , no wonder they have broken financial rules, Southampton £80 million, Sheff Utd £45 million and Birmingham £36 million.
 
Ive watched some of their games. It amazes me how poor Winks is and how he ever gets picked. He just strolls around being as far away from the action as possible. Banking 90k a week in the process. We did well to get 20 mill for him.

There’s so many ominous parallels to ourselves, what with owner’s children taking over the club (albeit under tragic circumstances in their case) and then proving to be utterly incompetent leading to protests from the fans and ultimately relegation…

I guess that, like many of our overpaid players, Winks considers himself too good for such a lowly club and knows that he’ll be able to move somewhere better this summer… perhaps in the back of his mind Harry’s thinking it’ll be even easier to secure a move if they get relegated 🤔
 
There will be huge media scrutiny on us if we go down.
First thing we as supporters need to realise and accept is that going down will not take us out of the spotlight, it will shine a massive concentrated spotlight on us.
We will not be crawling away to rebuild in a backwater, we will be the biggest show in town with every move we analysed to death.

I think you’re right, unfortunately. We will be everyone’s cup final and team to beat.
 
Surely now our squad have proved that they have a winning mentality by becoming CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE then that’ll play into our hands and we’ll set a record points tally on our way to becoming the first invincible team in Championship history?!

Surely!
 
Relegation is going to mean redundancies and massive cut in the wage bill and I just wonder out of our squad who goes and who stays , a lot of them are going to find getting anywhere near what they have been getting at Spurs hard to match.

Had a look at some Championship club wage costs, we probably have twice as many employees as some of them , our total wage bill in the last accounts was £255 million.
Leicester it looks like had a bill of £152 million , no wonder they have broken financial rules, Southampton £80 million, Sheff Utd £45 million and Birmingham £36 million.
Just a question; we have the wages we have, will it be considered breaking the FFP rules if we simply freeze our wages after relegation? Or are we expected to lower them to accommodate Championship FFP rules?
 
Just a question; we have the wages we have, will it be considered breaking the FFP rules if we simply freeze our wages after relegation? Or are we expected to lower them to accommodate Championship FFP rules?

Leicester halved their wage bill last time they dropped down to the Championship and if we don’t bounce straight back up then we’ll have to do similar (seen some financial gurus estimate we’ll need to trim wage bill by 75%) to avoid breaching 3 year cycle PSR rules which would result in a points deduction that might see us joining them in Division One.



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Just a question; we have the wages we have, will it be considered breaking the FFP rules if we simply freeze our wages after relegation? Or are we expected to lower them to accommodate Championship FFP rules?
Not sure exactly what the EFL rules are on PSR/FFP or squad ratios but Leicester's wage bill compared to their revenue was ridiculous , we are nowhere near the mess they are in.
Many say that a relegation clause is included in players contracts whether that is true or not I do not know , if it is then our wage bill will fall and others will leave we are certainly not going to pay Simons 200 grand a week in the Championship.
We do have a bit of a financial buffer with the fact that we can stage up to 30 other events a year at the stadium, that is bringing in around £50 million or so which is more than many Championship clubs revenue alone.
 
Beat me to it. There will be huge scrutiny and the pressure will double. What a story! “Can Tottenham rise from the ashes? Will they drop even further? Stick with us folks and join us on the Tottenham rollercoaster. Only £5 per month subscription.”

It’ll be utter carnage all season

And the lack of VAR will fudge us over every week.
 
Will be generational. Akin to Leicester winning the title.

23 teams in the Champo checking the fixture list for Spurs away. Insane it's got to this. Many have been speaking out against the Board for years and the trajectory they had us on. Pity that whenever opportunities arose as a fan base to make our voices heard, too few turned up.
I don’t think you could say the board had us on this trajectory for years. We were on a downward trend from 2018 but it wasn’t trending near relegation.

No established club I can remember went from 4th, 8th, 5th to 17th and 18th. Forest in 1992/93 is as close a parallel as I can recall but there were some unique circumstances there (Clough’s control of the club and the grip alcoholism had over him). They also didn’t have the financial advantages that we have.

Something cataclysmic has happened over the last two years, most likely a perfect storm of many factors.
 
I don’t think you could say the board had us on this trajectory for years. We were on a downward trend from 2018 but it wasn’t trending near relegation.

No established club I can remember went from 4th, 8th, 5th to 17th and 18th. Forest in 1992/93 is as close a parallel as I can recall but there were some unique circumstances there (Clough’s control of the club and the grip alcoholism had over him). They also didn’t have the financial advantages that we have.

Something cataclysmic has happened over the last two years, most likely a perfect storm of many factors.
A lot of it is of our own doing, a lot has been out of our control and some circumstances that you just couldn't make up.
We have also though become this club that everyone really dislikes and wants to see suffer.
Other than for the briefest spells under Poch and ange no one wants to see us succeed. Even then it was a case of do well, but not too well.
City and Chelsea are cheats.
Man utd and Liverpool are bully's.
Arsenal play the dullest football imaginable.
People would rather they won than we did.
It's an intangible, but it's also now a narrative and affects how other clubs approach us, how we are reffed, all fueled by a media and socials that can see a row ££££s from a narrative they are driving.

When we go down, and we are going down, this club, from owners, boardroom, coaches and players all the way down to us fans are going to have to toughen the fudge up or face being eaten alive.
 
A lot of it is of our own doing, a lot has been out of our control and some circumstances that you just couldn't make up.
We have also though become this club that everyone really dislikes and wants to see suffer.
Other than for the briefest spells under Poch and ange no one wants to see us succeed. Even then it was a case of do well, but not too well.
City and Chelsea are cheats.
Man utd and Liverpool are bully's.
Arsenal play the dullest football imaginable.
People would rather they won than we did.
It's an intangible, but it's also now a narrative and affects how other clubs approach us, how we are reffed, all fueled by a media and socials that can see a row ££££s from a narrative they are driving.

When we go down, and we are going down, this club, from owners, boardroom, coaches and players all the way down to us fans are going to have to toughen the fudge up or face being eaten alive.
F**k it, I’ll say it now. I don’t think we are going down. Our form has to turn and it will. This team has more than enough ability to get out of the mess and we have a good manager in place to get something good out of them. These lads have what BoL described as the yips when it comes to PL wins. One good result changes that IMO.

If I’m wrong, bring me back to this post but, in my opinion, this is the bottom. The nadir of my Tottenham supporting days. We’ll look back in years to come and say “remember that week when we were in the relegation zone in April, that was scary and mad wasn’t it”.

COYS
 
I fudging hate Tottenham.
A lot of it is of our own doing, a lot has been out of our control and some circumstances that you just couldn't make up.
We have also though become this club that everyone really dislikes and wants to see suffer.
Other than for the briefest spells under Poch and ange no one wants to see us succeed. Even then it was a case of do well, but not too well.
City and Chelsea are cheats.
Man utd and Liverpool are bully's.
Arsenal play the dullest football imaginable.
People would rather they won than we did.
It's an intangible, but it's also now a narrative and affects how other clubs approach us, how we are reffed, all fueled by a media and socials that can see a row ££££s from a narrative they are driving.

When we go down, and we are going down, this club, from owners, boardroom, coaches and players all the way down to us fans are going to have to toughen the fudge up or face being eaten alive.
dont disagree with this. Up and down the league and commentators are DESPERATE to see us go down.

But it still comes down to the top of the house. As i've said time and time again, if you want to act like Brighton, charge Brighton prices. Instead we charge the second highest prices in the league and fleece the fans continously, buying children to try and finish high in the PL. Eaten alive.

Truly, they should study this in the generations to come about mismanagement and the dangers that come with it. Unfortunately we are the ones that suffer.
 
Yeah, the fact that even Postecoglou stuck the boot in after his sacking just shows the issue is ENIC and it’s probably only a matter of time before RDZ joins the chorus of criticism directed at those bungling nepo-babies ⏳

No matter what is being said publicly, I’ll be very surprised if RDZ is our manager on the first day of next season if (and, personally, I think it’s when) we go down.
 
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