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I've always felt at imminent risk from someone lying on the ground with their hands on their heads while I point a gun at them.

And then ushered back into the building to be shot, I imagine so they can manipulate a report, than bring the building down on them.

From this point on, its ridiculous to believe they were not surrendering,

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Ahhh like the guy seen ushering them back in...................righto
I'm not sure under what circumstances anyone would send them back into a building that has yet to be cleared.

I understand that some people are desperate to find guilt and that they've assumed the terrorists were being ushered back in to be shot.

In order for that to make any logical sense, you have to ask yourself two things.

1) Why not just shoot them right there? He was shot so close to the door, inside made no difference. It's all visible from outside, so its not as if going inside offered cover.

2) From the timeline offered from both sides, it appears as if the mitary hadn't been in to the building after the terrorists were outside. So for all they know, that building is full of guns, explosives, etc. Why would they take that risk of sending a terrorist into a dark building, partially out of sight? If they were sending them in intentionally, they'd clear the room first.
 
I'm not sure under what circumstances anyone would send them back into a building that has yet to be cleared.#

Well as my mate is still part of the task force investigating historic police action/crimes against the IRA and uncovering issues, nothing shocks me at all with how so called sophisticated and advanced organisations act against their enemies

I understand that some people are desperate to find guilt and that they've assumed the terrorists were being ushered back in to be shot.

In order for that to make any logical sense, you have to ask yourself two things.

1) Why not just shoot them right there? He was shot so close to the door, inside made no difference. It's all visible from outside, so its not as if going inside offered cover.

2) From the timeline offered from both sides, it appears as if the mitary hadn't been in to the building after the terrorists were outside. So for all they know, that building is full of guns, explosives, etc. Why would they take that risk of sending a terrorist into a dark building, partially out of sight? If they were sending them in intentionally, they'd clear the room first.

Its nothing of the sort, people just have eyes in their head pal

3) when they are both lying on the floor and danger has gone and both soldiers had landed clear blows, why were they not then tagged and processed?

Anyway we will soon find out then the independent and on the ground chief commander issue their reports o_O
 
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Well as my mate is still part of the task force investigating historic police action/crimes against the IRA and uncovering issues, nothing shocks me at all with how so called sophisticated and advanced organisations act against their enemies
Your mate is a fudging traitor and should hang his head in shame.

You should be ashamed to be associated with such an arse cancer of a human being.

Its nothing of the sort, people just have eyes in their head pal

3) when they are both lying on the floor and danger has gone and both soldiers had landed clear blows, why were they not then tagged and processed?

Anyway we will soon find out then the independent and on the ground chief commander issue their reports o_O
It was seconds. They hadn't even checked them for weapons and the terrorists started heading back inside.
 
I don't disagree. Much like so many soldiers have got away with war crimes in Ireland.
Not having that I can assure you me & my mates never hurt any innocent civilians. They can throw petrol bombs, bricks & shoot at us let's not forget car bombs to kill innocent people & all I can do is stand there with a riot shield tear gas & shoot them with plastic bullets.Have you seen someone kneecaped for being a grass I have apparently he wasn't but they didn't give a fudge.

I have no sympathy for the IRA who is arresting them for there crimes no we can't do that we want peace let's go after the soldiers. fudge that & fudge them

Don't tar all soldiers with the same brush 99% are good people. When hell is coming over that hill heading for you your family & your friends we will stand & meet hell head on until none of us are left if that's what is needed & what do we ask for in return absolutely nothing.
 
Not having that I can assure you me & my mates never hurt any innocent civilians. They can throw petrol bombs, bricks & shoot at us let's not forget car bombs to kill innocent people & all I can do is stand there with a riot shield tear gas & shoot them with plastic bullets.Have you seen someone kneecaped for being a grass I have apparently he wasn't but they didn't give a fudge.

I have no sympathy for the IRA who is arresting them for there crimes no we can't do that we want peace let's go after the soldiers. fudge that & fudge them

Don't tar all soldiers with the same brush 99% are good people. When hell is coming over that hill heading for you your family & your friends we will stand & meet hell head on until none of us are left if that's what is needed & what do we ask for in return absolutely nothing.

You didn't read my post. Some did bad things. Not all. When did I say all. I know this is personal for you but I didn't say you or your mates. IRA were terrosits scum. Killed civilians. Bloody Sunday was a war crime.

Both things can be true.
 
You didn't read my post. Some did bad things. Not all. When did I say all. I know this is personal for you but I didn't say you or your mates. IRA were terrosits scum. Killed civilians. Bloody Sunday was a war crime.

Both things can be true.
Yes they can both be true but you said so many soldiers got away with war crimes in Ireland. How many got away with war crimes you have no idea. if you were talking about one event that's what you should have said.

As for bloody Sunday being a war crime according to the.bbc only one soldier was charged with murder & attempt murder he stood trial in Belfast & was found not guilty on both counts. The British army know exactly which parras discharged there weapons & how many rounds were fired & would have passed this information on to the relevant authorities & one soldier was charged so maybe it wasn't a war crime as you suggest. As it turns out it wasn't even murder.

As for the Israelis shooting those two I hope it's investigated independently not by Israel & if found guilty they get a very long time in prison
 
Yes they can both be true but you said so many soldiers got away with war crimes in Ireland. How many got away with war crimes you have no idea. if you were talking about one event that's what you should have said.

As for bloody Sunday being a war crime according to the.bbc only one soldier was charged with murder & attempt murder he stood trial in Belfast & was found not guilty on both counts. The British army know exactly which parras discharged there weapons & how many rounds were fired & would have passed this information on to the relevant authorities & one soldier was charged so maybe it wasn't a war crime as you suggest. As it turns out it wasn't even murder.

As for the Israelis shooting those two I hope it's investigated independently not by Israel & if found guilty they get a very long time in prison

I won't debate Ireland with you brother as you have experience and I've read about it. So I'll step away.

And on Israel. They won't let anyone investigate and they are hardly accountable to anyone.
 
I won't debate Ireland with you brother as you have experience and I've read about it. So I'll step away.

And on Israel. They won't let anyone investigate and they are hardly accountable to anyone.
No problem. as for Israel not being accountable I know it's unlikely right know but the minute Benjamin Netanyahu is out of power & leaves Israel arrest him & let the international criminal court decide his innocence or guilt
 
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