Kevin Danso

[robp135]

£2M Loan fee with an £18M obligation. Way too low. He has joined us and proven himself to be a capable Premier League player.

Going to be on £100k pw according to OhSoSpurs

 

[Ace Face]

£2M Loan fee with an £18M obligation. Way too low. He has joined us and proven himself to be a capable Premier League player.

Going to be on £100k pw according to OhSoSpurs

Not the fee I would have wanted but we make an 13mil paper profit on swapping him and Tosin.

 

[Mosquito_Coasting]

Just read Tosin is 6ft6 so I'm feeling a little better about losing Danso for him.

 

[metalgear]

Danso is good but consistently has a slip at the wrong time.

Tosin can't be worse as a back up and is coming knowing he's just that.

 

[Denmark Spur]

£2M Loan fee with an £18M obligation. Way too low. He has joined us and proven himself to be a capable Premier League player.

Going to be on £100k pw according to OhSoSpurs

Romano reckons that the obligation is £25m.

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[Mabspurs]

So basically we are getting a 20M profit for replacing a squad player with another of relatively equivalent characteristics.... actually if we get the Fulham Tosin as opposed to the Chelscum one, he will be an upgrade.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

And only time will tell if these squad decisions will be right, which is what I think people are discussing also. No one (as far as I can see) are making any bold statements

I can see Big Kevs reasoning for leaving (or wanting to). We so needed him in the situation we found ourselves in last season. Of course, we are not going to find ourselves in that situation this season. Are we?

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

So basically we are getting a 20M profit for replacing a squad player with another of relatively equivalent characteristics.... actually if we get the Fulham Tosin as opposed to the Chelscum one, he will be an upgrade.

Danso was bought for 21m and we’re selling for 25m next year, so +4m profit. So if we’re buying Tosin for 7m then essentially means we’ve rotated a squad player for 3m outlay.

I know the footballl accounting profits and amortization works differently, but just looking totals here…

 

[JerusalemMan]

The is the sort of squad churn or turnover which we haven't been great at historically.

 

[Muttley]

Danso was bought for 21m and we’re selling for 25m next year, so +4m profit. So if we’re buying Tosin for 7m then essentially means we’ve rotated a squad player for 3m outlay.

I know the footballl accounting profits and amortization works differently, but just looking totals here…

Yeah, I was thinking of the bigger centre half equation this morning

We have replaced Romero, Dragusin, Danso, Vuskovic and Phillips with JPvH, Senesi and Tosin whilst giving Davies a new contract. So we end up with the following:

JPvH, VDV, Tosin, Senesi, Davies

Once the Dragusin deal materialises, I think that is about £130m recouped for the outlay of £60m.

The real question is whether that centre defence is any good?

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Yeah, I was thinking of the bigger centre half equation this morning

We have replaced Romero, Dragusin, Danso, Vuskovic and Phillips with JPvH, Senesi and Tosin whilst giving Davies a new contract. So we end up with the following:

JPvH, VDV, Tosin, Senesi, Davies

Once the Dragusin deal materialises, I think that is about £130m recouped for the outlay of £60m.

The real question is whether that centre defence is any good?

This is the real and only question that matters and one that will be answered soon enough

 

[Muttley]

This is the real and only question that matters and one that will be answered soon enough

And of course it may not get answered until we see an injury or two.

You'd have to hope that the back 5 plus Tonali get a real understanding of playing together on a weekly basis. Then we get to find out what happens when one of these squad players need to deputise.

I think the most rotated position might be left back.

 

[JerusalemMan]

Yeah, I was thinking of the bigger centre half equation this morning

We have replaced Romero, Dragusin, Danso, Vuskovic and Phillips with JPvH, Senesi and Tosin whilst giving Davies a new contract. So we end up with the following:

JPvH, VDV, Tosin, Senesi, Davies

Once the Dragusin deal materialises, I think that is about £130m recouped for the outlay of £60m.

The real question is whether that centre defence is any good?

I know there's huge mitigation regarding injuries and managerial change, but the last two seasons with the previous staff did result in a lot of goals being conceded.

So, under De Zerbi, will the current defensive options allow a better performance that that which we've seen of late?

 

[Muttley]

I know there's huge mitigation regarding injuries and managerial change, but the last two seasons with the previous staff did result in a lot of goals being conceded.

So, under De Zerbi, will the current defensive options allow a better performance that that which we've seen of late?

It's been a problem for almost half a decade. Even in the season where Kane smashed 30 goals we still conceded over 60 goals. We then did that on both of Ange's seasons and we only just snuck under the 60 goals conceded last season.

I felt RDZ was addressing this well in his 7 games last season. I didn't see the Toon game but could clearly see that Brentford could have had a hat full of goals in the first game.

I guess we just have to believe RDZ will get it sorted.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

I know there's huge mitigation regarding injuries and managerial change, but the last two seasons with the previous staff did result in a lot of goals being conceded.

So, under De Zerbi, will the current defensive options allow a better performance that that which we've seen of late?

Whatever it is we need to go with it because the changes have been the impact on the performances and the changes in styles.

I think people pinpoint on players "they are the reason we finished 17th" and there is some value in that but not the whole story.

 

[elyid]

The is the sort of squad churn or turnover which we haven't been great at historically.

Yeah it’s interesting as normally we keep players at the club and make it difficult to leave unless a “good offer” comes in.

Hoping we’ll see some benefit from having sold any players that don’t 100% want to be here

 

[BigChiv9]

I know there's huge mitigation regarding injuries and managerial change, but the last two seasons with the previous staff did result in a lot of goals being conceded.

So, under De Zerbi, will the current defensive options allow a better performance that that which we've seen of late?

After watching the game on Saturday, I am just as (if not more) worried about how de Zerbi is organising the defence as the qualities of individual players. Having Tonali isolated against Elanga or standing 15 yards from the nearest opposition player while they are attacking doesn't seem the best idea.

 

[metalgear]

that's a discussion for the dezerbi thread, but i agree and posted my view there about de zerbi needing to upgrade from what he was playing 3 years ago. teams have caught up and Saudi Sportswashing Machine showed that clearly.

After watching the game on Saturday, I am just as (if not more) worried about how de Zerbi is organising the defence as the qualities of individual players. Having Tonali isolated against Elanga or standing 15 yards from the nearest opposition player while they are attacking doesn't seem the best idea.

 

[parj]

No of course and I think people get that, but the bigger picture is that he is IMO the only "defender first" that we have, so if he goes because he wants to, fine, but I think you need a similar profile in that respect in replacement.

I do get the "if they don't want to be here" arguments, but we seem far too happy with applying it to literally all the depth we need as a squad, part of the art of squad building is addressing it and keeping people as well IMO.

I'm really hoping this doesn't backfire because for me Danso is the only defender we have that actually defends.
I hope van Heyke and VDV can be the partnership to change things but im struggling to see that

 

[parklane1]

Good luck to him, he probably accepted he was never going to be first choice here and wanted to go where he would be.