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*** Tottenham Hotspur Vs Forest *** OMT

harr1984 said:
Do we need some new players? Of course. But the idea that we can't expect anything better than the constant slop we've been served up this season with a load of games barely above zero xG is utter garbage.

And forgetting the fact that midfield 2 would never work, how long does Frank need to work out Richi can't play up front on his own? Blame the players all you want, the signs are concerning and Frank must do better if he wants anything beyond the season here....
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Whilst I agree. Replace with who?
Tel and Ode? I like Kolo but he not scored in prem and the other 2 have what like 3 GA between them? We don't play to BJ strength.

We should be able to string passes together and shots on target.
Put together Vic has brain farts most games and we can't pass out.....I don't see what more he can do.
He stopped the goals leaking and we all hated that.
This team can't seem to have a balance of attack and defend. It's one or the other and at present......it's not great
 
Bishop said:
I know you want to turn this into a Frank vs Ange thing but meh not interested. Both suffer from having players not up to standard they require. We'll see if Frank is able to either get players in who do match his requirements, or he is able to adapt to the squad he has available and get performances ad results. Tie will tell.
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This !!

We don’t have top 4/5 quality squad. We are we are. Frank ,Ange , meh neither are top managers.

Our squad lacks top quality. I’ll say it every week. Win lose we need better players.
 
Nexus1967 said:
We probably wont be but those 3 are miles better than Kudus Simons and Richy, even though I don`t rate Solanke that highly.
We have to face up to the fact that we have a very average squad. It doesn`t matter who we get as a manager we need to start using our financial power to buy top quality players. Aren`t we in the top 10 richest clubs in the world now?
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Do you really think anything is going to change on the transfer front? Still the same people control the purse strings.
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
Mate, seriously, no-one, not one single poster, is saying we’ve got a squad full of world beaters, but we should be playing better than this..
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Why should we? I've been saying for years now that this team is pish. So for me I expect results like this. An average squad of players will have good days and they will have brick days. I dunno I don't look at our squad of players and actually expect better. Maybe i'm crazy but as i've said before its funny how the results match up to my views so often.
 
Bishop said:
I know you want to turn this into a Frank vs Ange thing but meh not interested. Both suffer from having players not up to standard they require. We'll see if Frank is able to either get players in who do match his requirements, or he is able to adapt to the squad he has available and get performances and results. Time will tell.
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And I’m sure you’ll still be here to post every single day about how brick every single player is in the meantime.
 
Bishop said:
I don't believe his actual quality will in reality make a difference. It didn't last season or the season before that.

He has the right play style but hes lacking in "it" for his play style to actually work consistently.
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I would look at Maddison from 23/24, specifically the first half of the season rather than last season - he was playing closer to his natural game then vs the game he was being asked to play as part of the managers tactics. He was getting on the ball and making things happen from our penalty area up through to the opposition penalty area - he was a breath of fresh air at the time
 
Mrs Vert said:
Whilst I agree. Replace with who?
Tel and Ode? I like Kolo but he not scored in prem and the other 2 have what like 3 GA between them? We don't play to BJ strength.

We should be able to string passes together and shots on target.
Put together Vic has brain farts most games and we can't pass out.....I don't see what more he can do.
He stopped the goals leaking and we all hated that.
This team can't seem to have a balance of attack and defend. It's one or the other and at present......it's not great
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He has options, and let's be clear I'm someone who hasn't been so critical of Richi even though I know he's not good enough.

Kolo Muani should play CF or Richi and Kolo Muani together - at least Richi is ok when there is another up front next to him who can occupy defenders.

I posted the xG table a while ago and how we are near the bottom - Of course xG isn't everything but it does have a tendency to give a good representation over the course of the season and the way Frank has us going attacking wise with our constant weak numbers we are going to slip further down the table. And for a pragmatic manager, he can't even get us defending well. We aren't great, but we aren't as bad as what we are constantly seeing. We need better players to get where we want to be, that doesn't mean Frank can be excused.....
 
Bishop said:
Why should we? I've been saying for years now that this team is pish. So for me I expect results like this. An average squad of players will have good days and they will have brick days. I dunno I don't look at our squad of players and actually expect better. Maybe i'm crazy but as i've said before its funny how the results match up to my views so often.
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Yea ok, all the players are just brick…

:rolleyes:
 
billyiddo said:
I would look at Maddison from 23/24, specifically the first half of the season rather than last season - he was playing closer to his natural game then vs the game he was being asked to play as part of the managers tactics. He was getting on the ball and making things happen from our penalty area up through to the opposition penalty area - he was a breath of fresh air at the time
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Second half of that season he was very poor and I said so at the time, it just took lots of people a long time to actually notice because they were so in awe of the first half of the season.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Kudus questioning the effort today (including his own performance). Vic questioned it against Monaco and Woolwich.

That’s very worrying.
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This is what I meant when I posted earlier saying which of them actually care?

They keep calling out their own lack of effort, if they see it, they shouldn’t need a manager to fix that, it’s on them… yet another week goes by where they basically say “yeah we didn’t really try this week either”.
 
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