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New New Manager Poll (The Lets Get It Right This Time Edition)

Who Do You Want Then?

  • Poch

    Votes: 58 43.3%

  • Gallardo

    Votes: 7 5.2%

  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Enrique

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Carrick

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Kompany

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 23 17.2%

  • Tuchel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 24 17.9%

  • Slot

    Votes: 17 12.7%
  • Total voters
    134
AdamB said:
Well, it depends on how you define struggle. However I was reading something earlier which suggested we should try to find our version of Arteta...which makes sense but if there was such a person at another club (eg assistant to someone at a major team) you'd need to wonder whether they'd leave to join us given our turnover of managers.

It'll take time (3+ years) but Levy really needs to change the clubs hire/fire reputation. In order to do that, he needs to lower expectations for the manager

Otherwise you're always going to struggle to attract the next up and coming manager
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That’s Mason
I’m not convinced our fans would give him the time
 
Finney Is Back said:
I said this a while ago…. Taking the Spurs job is a very big risk for a manager who has a good (but not lengthy) reputation. We got “no thanks’d” by a fair few managers before we eventually stumbled our way to appointing Nuno in 2021. Some managing clubs where one would naturally expect them to gladly leave to join THFC.

Generally when a person is considering a new senior role they will look at three things….
1. Remuneration
2. Expectations and success criteria
3. Autonomy.

If one of the things isn’t really right then the other two have to be massively skewed to make it worthwhile. If two of the three aren’t there then they shouldn’t accept the role.
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That's what happens when you appoint guys with massive reputations like Mourinho or Conte (who are well-respected in world football) and sack them or set them up to fail. Again, it doesn't matter whether this is the truth or not, it's how most people outside of England/Spurs see it. Sacking guys every other season might be fun but it's bound to bite you in the ass sooner or later. Of course, it didn't deter Conte from signing for us but it looks like it didn't have the desired effect: it made us less attractive, not more.

It doesn't mean we won't find a good manager (you can make up for a missing criteria with more money) but since we sacked Mourinho, appointing a manager has become something of an ordeal.
 
Grays_1890 said:
They were devastated with Potter left too, so as much as they did well replacing him with a gem of a find we can't start reimagining the past. They gave him pelters on his return because of how burnt they felt, you don't do that for someone you were happy to see jump.

I think the new gaffer there is a huge bright spark don't get me wrong, but people are now putting more downer on Potter than the reality because of their worry he might be our next gaffer.

Reading this mornings posts there are alot of confused angry and slightly inconsistent posts and I get it, but as I say I think people are needlessly working themselves into slight frenzy here.
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Spot on
 
AdamB said:
...but the basis for saying its Mason is that because he's a Spurs-man, done his coaching badges and in his early 30s? Not sure thats enough
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He has been coaching the same amount of time as arteta
Is a club man who will say yes
And first big opportunity
 
mjc23 said:
What a shambles.

This isn't new shocking information that we were going to be looking for a manger this summer.
Conte was never staying beyond this season anyway, so all this"due diligence" gonad*s should have been happening for the past 12 months and the manager already lined up. This is a bit pathetic
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You do your due diligence to create your shortlist. It includes things such as what the style of play is under said manager, what his personality is, how well he does with academies/youngsters, etc. But until you speak to the manager and club, you will not know if they are interested, what their demands are, what compensation the club wants, etc. Spurs could have spent years doing due diligence, but they would still have to wait until now to find these things out.
 
I can see us being the first club to refuse to sign a player cause the selling club wants a transfer fee.......Actually we've already done that
 
Mr Gogolak said:
That's what happens when you appoint guys with massive reputations like Mourinho or Conte (who are well-respected in world football) and sack them or set them up to fail. Again, it doesn't matter whether this is the truth or not, it's how most people outside of England/Spurs see it. Sacking guys every other season might be fun but it's bound to bite you in the ass sooner or later. Of course, it didn't deter Conte from signing for us but it looks like it didn't have the desired effect: it made us less attractive, not more.

It doesn't mean we won't find a good manager (you can make up for a missing criteria with more money) but since we sacked Mourinho, appointing a manager has become something of an ordeal.
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I think the sacking of Pochettino might scare prospective managers even more…. 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th (CL runners up), sacked. I mean if you can’t even give a manager who has massively overachieved compared to budget provided one bad season which is clearly a transitional rebuild season then who are you going to give time to?

If I were Arne Slot I would probably swerve us well…. OK he will earn maybe 2 times his new Feyenoord salary but will likely have less autonomy, unrealistic success criteria and have a strong inkling that he’ll get sacked the moment things take a downturn.

If he instead stays at Feyenoord for another year then he could take another big job, paying big money where the expectation better matches the resources provided.
 
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Finney Is Back said:
I think the sacking of Pochettino might scare prospective managers even more…. 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th (CL runners up), sacked. I mean if you can’t even give a manager who has massively overachieved compared to budget provided one bad season which is clearly a transitional rebuild season then who are you going to give time to?

If I were Arne Slot I would probably swerve us well…. OK he will earn maybe 2 times his new Feyenoord salary but will likely have less autonomy, unrealistic success criteria and have a strong inkling that he’ll get sacked the mo ent things take a downturn.

If he instead stays at Feyenoord for another year then he could take another big job, paying big money where the expectation better matches the resources provided.
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Such as?
The last big job he was linked with was Leeds
 
Finney Is Back said:
Well it is very expensive to have to pay £20m to get a manager when you know you’re going to have to pay the same amount again to sack them only a few months’ later.
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Blah blah blah

Even if the issue was the compensation to Feyenoord (which it wasn't, given that would have been the last piece after having agreed on everything with Slot, which we didn't), you're saying that as if £20m for a manager with 3 good years in the Eredivisie is the norm. A little perspective here...
 
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