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The Goon Thread - Officially Second In A One Horse Race

His autobiography will be interesting, if he really decides to reveal the juicy details (I'm sure there's plenty).
 
jts1882 said:
I think that reflects more badly on The Standard than Wenger. I read the comments in The Guardian as part of a more general report on Wenger's last PL press conference where he was looking back on his time and regrets at Arsenal. The comments on Kane came after discussing his two phases at Arsenal and how the move the Emirates didn't bring what they had hoped for.

Wenger: Regrets? I’ve had a few and David Dein leaving was one
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Irregardless of where or when it was said it was a comment that had no substance to it and was based purely on Wenger's knowledge of his time at Arsenal and not about the financial stability of Spurs. It was said as a "parting shot" to take down their North London rivals and draw away from the fact that they are up brick creek without a paddle and Spurs are a better run club than Arsenal ever will be.
 
Why do people in the media think Allegri would leave Juve to join Arse? Its a huge step down. Has he said that he's leaving?
 
AdamB said:
Why do people in the media think Allegri would leave Juve to join Arse? Its a huge step down. Has he said that he's leaving?
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Possible because it's a better paid job. He's said today that he won't leave for a job without a chance of winning something, so there's his appraisal of their squad and his budget.
 
Ouch! From The Guardian's review of the top PL players.

The top five clubs do not have all the exciting talent. There are some delightful players at lesser sides: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, for instance, looked lethal after his arrival at Arsenal; Riyad Mahrez was often a joy to watch despite the frustration of his thwarted move to Emirates Marketing Project and Leicester’s sagging; Xherdan Shaqiri did some fine things at Stoke; Christopher Schindler was quietly classy at Huddersfield; but perhaps none of them were as consistently dangerous, eye-catching and influential as Zaha, who triggered panic and glee nearly every time he ran with the ball. “I was reading the programme before the match and there was a statistic that claimed Zaha had only two assists so far this season,” said Roy Hodgson after Crystal Palace’s 3-0 win at Leicester in December. “But as far as I can make out Wilf is involved in at least 80% of what we create.”

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...er-league-2017-18-review-player-of-the-season​
 
If it's Arteta, then he'll have to hit the ground running. The fanbase tired of Wenger and dreaming of Allegri, Ancelotti etc. aren't going to be over the moon with Arteta and if he doesn't get good results quickly, they will tear him to shreds imo.

I was hoping for this type of appointment, would be gutted if they lured someone like Simeone who would make them compete properly again.
 
the dza said:
If it's Arteta, then he'll have to hit the ground running. The fanbase tired of Wenger and dreaming of Allegri, Ancelotti etc. aren't going to be over the moon with Arteta and if he doesn't get good results quickly, they will tear him to shreds imo.

I was hoping for this type of appointment, would be gutted if they lured someone like Simeone who would make them compete properly again.
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Should have some expertise in the squad to help, then.
 
Re rumours of Arteta to Woolwich : listening to the Guardian Football Weekly podcast, the Woolwich fan journalist fan on there was horrified at the thought of Arteta getting the job. How can you give the job to someone who has never managed a single game of football, ever, was the question? Barry Glendenning, whom I generally dislike, thought it would be funny to see it happen, just to see Woolwich plummet down the table. I may have to adjust my perspective on Glendenning.
 
There was a time when every manager managed their first game, assuming he’s worked with youth and reserve teams it’s no different to when Pep took the Barca job or Zidane with Madrid. He knows the club and the players and will start with the goodwill of the sensible elements of the fan base.
 
galeforce said:
There was a time when every manager managed their first game, assuming he’s worked with youth and reserve teams it’s no different to when Pep took the Barca job or Zidane with Madrid. He knows the club and the players and will start with the goodwill of the sensible elements of the fan base.
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Those two were club legends in a two team league, Arteta not so much... if he doesn' have them competing quite early their fan base will go nuts.... pop corn please.
 
Would be a strange appointment after all the good work they have done the past year or so putting together a modern setup over Wengers head
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Re rumours of Arteta to Woolwich : listening to the Guardian Football Weekly podcast, the Woolwich fan journalist fan on there was horrified at the thought of Arteta getting the job. How can you give the job to someone who has never managed a single game of football, ever, was the question? Barry Glendenning, whom I generally dislike, thought it would be funny to see it happen, just to see Woolwich plummet down the table. I may have to adjust my perspective on Glendenning.
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I wouldn't. He is an arsehole.
 
DTA said:
Those two were club legends in a two team league, Arteta not so much... if he doesn' have them competing quite early their fan base will go nuts.... pop corn please.
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Indeed. Its very odd, bold though - fair play if they go for it.

After watching Utd fall out of contention completely you would think they would go for proven quality, in their shoes Id be after Ancelotti like a shot.

To go with an absolute rookie seems mental.

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Would be a strange appointment after all the good work they have done the past year or so putting together a modern setup over Wengers head
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I suppose the point of that sort of set up is that you hire coaches, not managers, and they should be largely interchangeable/replaceable.

Even so, Arteta would have to be something REALLY special to jump from 2 seasons as a coach (not even youth manager) to taking on one of the biggest clubs in the league.
 
DTA said:
Those two were club legends in a two team league, Arteta not so much... if he doesn' have them competing quite early their fan base will go nuts.... pop corn please.
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Agreed. Also, those clubs had some serious quality on the pitch for the coach to work with. Whoever takes over Arsenal has to re-build their defence and midfield. IMO, if Arteta is the appointment, it's because he's not asking for £200m to spend on the necessary players in the way that someone like Allegri might do. So I think their fans would have an open mind initially, but a few bad results and a lack of signings of the type they expect and the wheels would come off very quickly imo, they'd start raging how the board appointed a "yes man" etc.

Fingers crossed!
 
My thinking on the Wenger successor was that they would need a fall-guy like Moyes. It is impossible to follow a legend so the first appointment is not the serious one. However, Wenger has unintentionally made the transition easier. The new manager will just need to show signs of improvement, maintaining sixth might be acceptable in the first season and they could probably appoint rSol and achieve that.

So Arteta or Vieira for the long-haul might be reasonable options. Allegri seems more a quick fix solution and he won't come without a large budget. You can see why Stan and mini-Stan are thinking of Arteta.
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
I suppose the point of that sort of set up is that you hire coaches, not managers, and they should be largely interchangeable/replaceable.

Even so, Arteta would have to be something REALLY special to jump from 2 seasons as a coach (not even youth manager) to taking on one of the biggest clubs in the league.
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I thought he was going to Arsenal? ;)
 
jts1882 said:
My thinking on the Wenger successor was that they would need a fall-guy like Moyes.
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arsenal certainly do not need a fall guy lol. theyre going to struggle to get out of a spiral of negatively if their next guy is a fall guy. they dont have the money to propel themselves out like utd
 
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