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The London Taxpayers' Stadium Shambles
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Joke owners.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Sam Allardyce left in May btw..
jts1882
Dean Richards
There is actually a block of 3000 seats in that space. The end lower tiers have three parts. The central part is fixed, while the outer parts are pulled forward and joined together in front. There could be scope to use this space. Fans wouldn't get a view of the pitch but could watch on a screen or on their phones (which some fans seem to do anyway). Iirc, the new Dallas Cowboys stadium has such zones
Baleforce
Ron Henry
bubbles
Denmark Spur
Edgar Davids
Great read here
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33780720
Surely a full investigation will be launched into the contract made by LLDC and West Ham
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33780720
Surely a full investigation will be launched into the contract made by LLDC and West Ham
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
They'll be getting transfer funding next.
Sandman
Dean Austin
the fact that it also does not align with what Emirates Marketing Project currently pay makes no sense at all. They pay 4m a year in rent and all the running costs. And even that is a rip off to the taxpayer. Its just crazy. What makes it even more galling is that they can so no to us sharing for one year. They are tennants. And not even in the house when we would play there so they should get no choice in the matter. Its a State owned Stadium.
272m to make the stadium refit. And they are getting nothing back basically. Just stinks! the whole thing stinks.
272m to make the stadium refit. And they are getting nothing back basically. Just stinks! the whole thing stinks.
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
jts1882
Dean Richards
Emirates Marketing Project gave Maine Road to the council. I think they built housing. West Ham sold Upton Park and are keeping the proceeds or transferring it to the the owners.
The Emirates Marketing Project deal was all about making the Games possible. The West Ham deal is all about cobbling together a deal that reduces the embarrassment of those involved in the stadium decision making. If I was a West Ham fan I'd be applauding their owners for striking the best deal possible, although checking where the money for Upton Park is going.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
milo
Jack L. Jones
Just how small are the dildo brothers? Johnson is a short arse for perspective.
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
One of the porn barons gave an interesting interview to a Sunday Times reporter recently: I lifted the quotes off 'West Ham Till I Die', but it's quite an interesting one. Bolded the most interesting bits.
Source: https://www.westhamtillidie.com/posts/2015/08/10/david-sullivan-maybe-we-can-pick-off-tottenham
“Long-term, there’s no reason we can’t be one of England’s leading six clubs, pushing for the Champions League. You have to dream. Otherwise what’s the point of being an owner or supporter? And we [he and co-chairman David Gold] are both owners and supporters.
“We have no desire to sell West Ham. We hope to pass it to our kids and grandkids. While the [stadium] deal is confidential, if we sell before 10 years most of the money would go to the government. We happily signed that, because we’ve no intention of selling. We’re only renting it for 25 matchdays. They [LLDC] have 340 days a year to get income off other people.”
“We’ve given up virtually all the naming rights, which are worth a lot of money. The catering income — and we make vast amounts from that at Upton Park — will be shared between us and LLDC. The base rent? We’re giving a lot more back than has been said."
We’re not here for a quick buck. We were the best bid. Tottenham were going to knock it down, this iconic stadium, which would have been horrendous. With us, the legacy lives on.”
“This season and next are vital. This season, I’m looking to not be fighting relegation. I want a season where everyone feels good about supporting West Ham.”
“We collapsed at the end of last season [West Ham finished 12th, having been third in December]. Three wins in 21 was worse than relegation form. We knew we needed changes. There were a lot of warning signs. Fulham had similar the season before, didn’t do a lot, stayed with their manager and got relegated. Sam wanted a break. In January or this time next year, he’ll go somewhere and do a very good job. Slaven was probably the fans’ choice and has many admirable qualities. He’s an incredibly hard-working fellow, he’s really whacking in the hours, and he’s smart, a trained lawyer. He’s got stature. I think he’s got the fear factor like Mourinho and players will respect that.”
“Every manager we approach, we say that’s the deal. If you don’t believe you’re going to keep us up you shouldn’t be coming. To go somewhere and get relegated then want a couple of million quid is a joke. Slaven’s bonus structure is geared to success. Success isn’t surviving in the Premier League and it isn’t finishing 14th.”
"I don’t pick the players. We [Sullivan, Gold and Bilic] all talk then jointly decide. At this stage, you back your manager. Maybe in a year, if a few signings haven’t worked out, you say, ‘OK, I’ll pick a few’. The only one where I had input,” says Sullivan, “was Dimitri Payet. He was an equal pick with the manager. I really fancied him. He had the best assists in France and the third-best assists in Europe. And he got nine goals. He’s done well year in, year out. Marseille didn’t want him to go. He’s 28 — if he was 21 he’d be a £30m player.”
“It’s a bit like crosswords. There’s a player available now but one you prefer might be available in two weeks. So you wait but then the first one has gone and the second might not be available after all. It’s a crossword where one wrong answer means the whole thing doesn’t work. I look at [Andre] Ayew, who went to Swansea. Huge wages but, as a Bosman, not expensive overall. A very good player. Maybe we should have taken him.”
" [Andy Carroll] could be back by September 1, maybe September 14. People think he’s out partying all the time. He’s not. Our fitness guys will tell you he’s doing the hardest training of his life. You may see an Andy Carroll you’ve never seen before. He could be devastating.”
Top six? “It isn’t easy because you go down the list — Chelsea with Roman Abramovich, Manchester United with the best brand in the world, Emirates Marketing Project with Abu Dhabi, Arsenal with a great system and having paid off their stadium, Liverpool with commercial income way ahead of ours. Then you’ve Tottenham — maybe we can pick Tottenham off. Tottenham are bigger than us at the moment but within striking distance.”
The first point: well, fair enough, we were going to blow the thing up and build over it. Still, doesn't make the way it went to West Ham any less shady.
The second point: Oh, Daniel, would that you'd spent time eavesdropping on this instead of allegedly spying on OS bid executives. It's the other way around at our gaff, especially the bit about backing our managers: and I don't think we've done particularly well out of it.
Third point: dream on, you sods. Dream on.
Source: https://www.westhamtillidie.com/posts/2015/08/10/david-sullivan-maybe-we-can-pick-off-tottenham
“Long-term, there’s no reason we can’t be one of England’s leading six clubs, pushing for the Champions League. You have to dream. Otherwise what’s the point of being an owner or supporter? And we [he and co-chairman David Gold] are both owners and supporters.
“We have no desire to sell West Ham. We hope to pass it to our kids and grandkids. While the [stadium] deal is confidential, if we sell before 10 years most of the money would go to the government. We happily signed that, because we’ve no intention of selling. We’re only renting it for 25 matchdays. They [LLDC] have 340 days a year to get income off other people.”
“We’ve given up virtually all the naming rights, which are worth a lot of money. The catering income — and we make vast amounts from that at Upton Park — will be shared between us and LLDC. The base rent? We’re giving a lot more back than has been said."
We’re not here for a quick buck. We were the best bid. Tottenham were going to knock it down, this iconic stadium, which would have been horrendous. With us, the legacy lives on.”
“This season and next are vital. This season, I’m looking to not be fighting relegation. I want a season where everyone feels good about supporting West Ham.”
“We collapsed at the end of last season [West Ham finished 12th, having been third in December]. Three wins in 21 was worse than relegation form. We knew we needed changes. There were a lot of warning signs. Fulham had similar the season before, didn’t do a lot, stayed with their manager and got relegated. Sam wanted a break. In January or this time next year, he’ll go somewhere and do a very good job. Slaven was probably the fans’ choice and has many admirable qualities. He’s an incredibly hard-working fellow, he’s really whacking in the hours, and he’s smart, a trained lawyer. He’s got stature. I think he’s got the fear factor like Mourinho and players will respect that.”
“Every manager we approach, we say that’s the deal. If you don’t believe you’re going to keep us up you shouldn’t be coming. To go somewhere and get relegated then want a couple of million quid is a joke. Slaven’s bonus structure is geared to success. Success isn’t surviving in the Premier League and it isn’t finishing 14th.”
"I don’t pick the players. We [Sullivan, Gold and Bilic] all talk then jointly decide. At this stage, you back your manager. Maybe in a year, if a few signings haven’t worked out, you say, ‘OK, I’ll pick a few’. The only one where I had input,” says Sullivan, “was Dimitri Payet. He was an equal pick with the manager. I really fancied him. He had the best assists in France and the third-best assists in Europe. And he got nine goals. He’s done well year in, year out. Marseille didn’t want him to go. He’s 28 — if he was 21 he’d be a £30m player.”
“It’s a bit like crosswords. There’s a player available now but one you prefer might be available in two weeks. So you wait but then the first one has gone and the second might not be available after all. It’s a crossword where one wrong answer means the whole thing doesn’t work. I look at [Andre] Ayew, who went to Swansea. Huge wages but, as a Bosman, not expensive overall. A very good player. Maybe we should have taken him.”
" [Andy Carroll] could be back by September 1, maybe September 14. People think he’s out partying all the time. He’s not. Our fitness guys will tell you he’s doing the hardest training of his life. You may see an Andy Carroll you’ve never seen before. He could be devastating.”
Top six? “It isn’t easy because you go down the list — Chelsea with Roman Abramovich, Manchester United with the best brand in the world, Emirates Marketing Project with Abu Dhabi, Arsenal with a great system and having paid off their stadium, Liverpool with commercial income way ahead of ours. Then you’ve Tottenham — maybe we can pick Tottenham off. Tottenham are bigger than us at the moment but within striking distance.”
The first point: well, fair enough, we were going to blow the thing up and build over it. Still, doesn't make the way it went to West Ham any less shady.
The second point: Oh, Daniel, would that you'd spent time eavesdropping on this instead of allegedly spying on OS bid executives. It's the other way around at our gaff, especially the bit about backing our managers: and I don't think we've done particularly well out of it.
Third point: dream on, you sods. Dream on.
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THST and a whole host of other London supporters groups have got together to set up a petition to parliament to demand a public enquiry into the West Ham Olympic stadium deal. They are effectively being given taxpayers' money to earn a huge competitive advantage and the whole thing is shrouded in secrecy. It stinks.
So this is one that we should all sign.
I'll post it in the stadium thread too but felt it deserved a thread of its own for those who don't usually bother with that thread. Here's the link for the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106355
So this is one that we should all sign.
I'll post it in the stadium thread too but felt it deserved a thread of its own for those who don't usually bother with that thread. Here's the link for the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106355
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