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****OMT- TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR VS Panathinaikos**********

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Kingdawson, 2 Dec 2012.

  1. JPG_357

    JPG_357 Jason Dozzell

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    HI SD, as Jordinho says in his helpful rundown, lose this and we're out. Of course, if you don't mind us going out, then fair enough we can afford to lose.

    I don't want to see us go out, neither does AVB IMHO, so I expect him to pick a strong team and rightfully so. Naturally, we'll all have different definitions of a 'strong team' but mine is the one I've indicated.
     
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  2. onlyme

    onlyme Banned

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    That team is crazy but logical. Why not?
     
  3. Spursalot

    Spursalot Jimmy McCormick

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    Two ball playing midfielders? We're either going to dominate or be destroyed.

    As an aside i'm ever hopeful Bae and Parker can get on the bench for this one.
     
  4. onlyme

    onlyme Banned

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    Worth bearing in mind but the more positive vibe is that we only need to draw and these bastards can't even afford to pay their electric bill.
    I saw one of them trying to top up their key at Costcutters and the credit card was declined.
     
  5. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Jimmy Neighbour

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    Must win.
     
  6. JPG_357

    JPG_357 Jason Dozzell

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    Well must win or not, it's certainly a 'mustn't lose' if we are to progress, hence why I think we should start most of the team that played against Fulham.
     
  7. AdamB

    AdamB Jack Jull

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    Please can we rest Vertonghan? He seems to play every game - not sure why given we have Naughton and Walker who can play in games like this
     
  8. JPG_357

    JPG_357 Jason Dozzell

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    Because neither Naughton or Walker are as good at LB as he is.

    it'd be a big risk v Pana to rest JV, I wouldn't do it, I wonder if AVb will.

    Funnily enough when AVB did rest JV we were doing fine, then bizarrely he bought him on for Carroll, a massive mistake v Norwich.
     
  9. Spursalot

    Spursalot Jimmy McCormick

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    Irrelevant surely? You can't play him for the whole season, so whenever you do drop him you're going to have to play someone of a lower quality.


    Naughton is good enough at LB for Panathinaikos.
     
  10. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Steffen Iversen

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    I thought AVB said the players can have a rest after the Everton game, which would mean him playing his strongest team vs. Panathinaikos?
     
  11. Rossi22

    Rossi22 Pedro Mendes

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    He's played virtually our strongest side in the previous 5 games, I'm sure he's not going to stop now when our qualification is at stake.
     
  12. JPG_357

    JPG_357 Jason Dozzell

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    Exactly, I think he'll play most of our current 'first XI' and rightly so, we can't afford to slip up now having done the hard bit in Lazio. Lloris JV etc I'd play them all.
     
  13. Jordinho

    Jordinho Tony Marchi Staff Member

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    Previous meetings

    • The sides drew 1-1 when they met for the first time on matchday two. Michael Dawson headed the English team ahead in a first half characterised by a slow tempo, but Spurs paid for a lapse of concentration as Toche levelled with 13 minutes remaining.

    • Spurs' five games against Greek clubs have ended W1 D2 L2 (W1 D0 L1 at home – W0 D2 L1 in Greece). They met PAOK FC in last season's group stage, drawing 0-0 in Salonika and losing 2-1 in London. They have not won in four matches against Greek opposition.

    • Panathinaikos's record in 17 games against English teams is W1 D6 L10 (W1 D4 L4 in Athens – W0 D2 L6 in England). That lone victory came against Spurs' north London rivals Arsenal FC in the UEFA Champions League group stage on 26 September 2001.

    • Panathinaikos ended a run of three straight defeats in London (all against Arsenal) when they drew 1-1 with the Gunners in their most recent visit to England, in the 2004/05 UEFA Champions League group stage.

    Match background

    • Spurs are unbeaten in their last six European games, but that last defeat came against another Greek side – 2-1 against PAOK last season.

    • Panathinaikos have lost their four most recent UEFA Europa League away games –the last three by the same 3-0 scoreline – without scoring.

    • This is Panathinaikos's fourth UEFA Cup and UEFA Europa League group stage campaign, and they have successfully reached the knockout phase of the competition in all of their previous efforts.

    • Spurs are returning to the group stage of this competition for a fifth time. Including their 2010/11 UEFA Champions League campaign, they have reached the knockout phase in four of their five previous UEFA group stage attempts, missing the cut for the first time in last term's UEFA Europa League.

    Team facts

    • This is Spurs' 100th UEFA Cup and UEFA Europa League game; their previous 99 ended W56 D26 L17.

    • Spurs and FC Twente have been the group stage's draw specialists, with four ties each from their five games. The Dutch side, however, are already certain to miss out on a place in the round of 32.

    • Helder Postiga played for both clubs: he represented Spurs in 2003/04 and then spent half a season on loan at Panathinaikos in 2008.

    • Panathinaikos's Ghana winger Quincy Owusu-Abeyie had a trial at Tottenham in January 2009. He started his career at Arsenal, and also played for Birmingham City FC, Cardiff City FC and Portsmouth FC during his time in England.

    • Other Greens players with Premier League experience include Jean-Alain Boumsong (Newcastle United FC) and Sebastian Leto (Liverpool FC).

    • Panathinaikos defender Jose Manuel Velazquez and Tottenham attacking midfielder Iago Falque spent a season together in the Villarreal CF B team in 2010/11.

    • Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas received his first break in coaching as a teenager from then Porto boss Sir Bobby Robson, and later assisted Jose Mourinho at Porto, Chelsea FC and FC Internazionale Milano, before striking out alone at A. Academica de Coimbra and then leading Porto to a domestic double and the UEFA Cup in 2010/11. A move to Chelsea that summer proved to be ill-fated, but he took charge at Spurs in July 2012.

    • Andre Pinto was on the books at Porto during Villas-Boas's spell in charge, though he spent that season on loan with Portimonense SC.

    • Panathinaikos parted company with coach Jesualdo Ferreira after matchday four, with the Under-20 coaching team of Ioannis Vanortas and Juan Ramon Rocha taking charge for the remainder of the season. A midfielder for the club from 1979-89, Rocha was Panathinaikos coach from 1994-96, leading the Greens to the 1995/96 UEFA Champions League semi-finals, and was briefly caretaker boss again in 1999.
     
  14. clevelandspur

    clevelandspur Pascal Chimbonda

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    My team would be:

    ------------Friedel----------------

    Walker----Caulker---Gallas-----Naughton

    Siggy------Carroll----Sandro-----Falque

    ----------Dempsey----Defoe---------

    Lennon has actually been quite poor attacking recently I would rest him and give Siggy or Townsend a start. Obviously Falque in to replace Bale and save Dembele for the weekend. Carroll has actually looked very sharp recently and I think deserves to start over Huddlestone on merit. I would give Vertonghen a rest as he has played nearly every game and can always bring him off the bench if needed.

    2-0 Tottenham

    Defoe X2
     
  15. frankdeboer

    frankdeboer Mbulelo Mabizela

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    why no vertonghen?
     
  16. King of Norway

    King of Norway Alan Hutton

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    He could do with a rest. He has played all our games lately.
     
  17. frankdeboer

    frankdeboer Mbulelo Mabizela

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    don't sound so bossy!
    but ok i am glad. i thought you guys didn't like him maybe. :barnet:
     
  18. Kenyan Spur

    Kenyan Spur Milenko Acimovic

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    Why not play Ade. ??????
     
  19. clevelandspur

    clevelandspur Pascal Chimbonda

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    oops I forgot that he can play in this one yes definitely needs to start with JD and I would start Siggy/Dempsey in palce of Lennon on the right. Think Azza needs a kick up the backside
     
  20. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    Agree with your comment about Lennon. But surely Ade must start this one with or without Defoe
     

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