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OMT Spurs vs Olympiakos

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Cochise, 16 Sep 2019.

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Man of the match

Poll closed 20 Sep 2019.
  1. Kane

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Moura

    6.8%
  3. Sissoko

    6.8%
  4. Winks

    86.4%
  1. Jon

    Jon Nick Barmby

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    Isn’t it funny how with every game, Lo celso is quickly becoming a storm trooper mutiny pal! :D
     
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  2. Legohamster

    Legohamster Steve Carr

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    We all know he played badly.

    But most the team did.

    Alli was Abysmal as well
     
  3. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Paul Walsh

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    Individually and collectively we let that game slip. They were decent don't get me wrong, but we should have nailed the win!

    Verts with a stupid pen. Alli and Lamela could have played in Kane for a winning tap-in, instead of trying the tight near post shot. Too much of our passing was sloppy or slow. 2 other observations:
    • we missed having a settled team. Sanchez getting used to RB, Ndombele finding his feet, Davies rusty, and players feeling out the shape and where to pass.
    • we don't impose our game on teams enough. We need a set way to play, then impose it. As we did against Palace. Pass it well, get the ball wide, get in behind.

    At the end they were for the taking. If we have a game plan where to move the ball - without thinking - we nail the win. For example, work the ball with one-twos down the wing and be ready to attack the cut back. Instead we're making it harder than it need be. We go with the flow of the game. And by the time we've figured out our attack they are back in position.
     
  4. milo

    milo Ricky Villa Staff Member

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    That's why you need to keep refreshing the players and building from a position of strength. I think that we did away with a DoF at exactly the wrong time, Levy was understandably focused on the stadium but that has left us with a number of players that the manager doesn't want and an ageing squad.
     
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  5. harr1984

    harr1984 Pat van den Hauwe

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    No one is complaining about the actual result, it’s the performance. I don’t care what stadium we are playing at, I expect our players to be able to pass the ball properly and play with some sort of cohesion. If we lose then fine but at least look like a team. This is a too often occurrence now, some posters have been trying to sweep these types of performances under the carpet for far too long. When we were a really good side this type of performance was a one off, now we’re watching it every other week....
     
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  6. StephenH

    StephenH Andy Thompson

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    I remain unconvinced on the quality of incoming!
    Sessegnon is one for the future, I agree
    I'm not sure about the Argentinan lad not seen enough Ndombele I like
     
  7. milo

    milo Ricky Villa Staff Member

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    Parrott is the answer.

    Seriously though, Lo Celso was signed as a first team player but I still think that Poch would be easing him in at this stage. Eriksen had a stinker tonight, Lo Celso was signed as his replacement and would have been an option.

    We also need to recognise that there were a number of players featuring tonight who were coming back from injuries, fine margins and all that.
     
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  8. yiddo37

    yiddo37 Peter Taylor

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    @milo Winks motm. Davies did well and Sissoko when he came on. The others ranged between 4/10 and 6/10.
     
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  9. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Gary Stevens

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    We must sound quite arrogant as fans
    That’s a rough place to go
    Made tougher with half a team changed
    Not losing is key as we will smash them at home
     
  10. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Gary Stevens

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    Thought Davies had a shocker defensively
     
  11. milo

    milo Ricky Villa Staff Member

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    I think that you are right to reserve judgement until they have settled in but they are players who have done very well elsewhere and were clearly our priority signings at the beginning of the summer.
     
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  12. milo

    milo Ricky Villa Staff Member

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    I'd rather drink paint thinner
     
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  13. GPRD81

    GPRD81 Nico Claesen

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    The word that kept coming to me during that match was 'loose' - our passing was loose and so was the defending for 65 minutes. Such a shame that we couldn't build momentum from the weekend.
    We seemed to gain some real control of the game from about 65 mins onwards and I felt more confident towards the end - this was probably around the time that Sissoko came on for Ndombele although not sure that was any more than a coincidence.

    Probably a draw away is a decent result as long as you win your home games.
     
  14. alekaras

    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    :rolleyes:
     
  15. King of Norway

    King of Norway Gudni Bergsson

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    We got a point after a poor performance in a key game in the group. That has to be the positive thing. It was very important not to lose, as that would have put us in a precarious position. It was a very disappointing performance though. We very lucky not to go behind early, and then when we still go two goals up, we need to protect that lead much better.

    It feels a bit like Arsenal all over again. I felt that we had ridden the storm by the time they scored, but then we lose focus and let them score a goal just before half time almost unopposed. Kane didn't bother to track back, Ndombele didn't bother to track back (or rather seemed almost incapable of moving throughout the game) and Vertonghen and Davies were all over the place and too slow.

    And then before the second goal we made so many stupid decisions it was almost unbelievable. I think it was Winks (who I otherwise thought was our best player today), played a dangerous pass to Eriksen just outside our own box, Eriksen, for some reason, seemed to think he had all the time in the world in that position and failed to protect the ball, and Vertonghen commited a foul on a player with his back to goal 17 yards out.

    Overall I thought we had them under better control in the second half. And if we had been a bit more accurate and taken better decisions in the final third, we could have had another goal. Alli could have passed to Kane for a simple goal, but took the shot on instead, either because of greed or because he didn't look up. Lamela the same, although it was a more difficult pass that time.

    We seemed to lack energy today, maybe because of the heat. And too many players had a poor day. Davies looked very rusty and struggled with the speedster on their right side. He did well to win the ball and set up Moura's goal though. Vertonghen was similarly poor on the left side of our defence. Ndombele was dreadful. I worry a bit about him in the long term. He looks incredibly slow. And Eriksen was asleep all game and kept losing possession.

    On top of that I am worried about the short break for the Leicester game after what seemed like an energy draining game today..
     
  16. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Gary Stevens

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    Yeah
    I meant after this game
    Win at home and don’t lose away
     
  17. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Gary Stevens

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    It was dele who made the pass to eriksen
    Ndombele needs work to get up to speed
    We will have a changed team vs Leicester
     
  18. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Paul Walsh

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    Agreed. That we are upset at the draw shows the progress. If Olympiocos had outplayed us, I think we'd accept the draw. You could see we were the better side but we didn't impose ourselves - first defensively, then attacking, when we needed the final goal. That was the frustration!
     
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  19. StephenH

    StephenH Andy Thompson

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    Pochettino needs to sort what he has, as a priority!
    Palace to Olympiakos is chalk and cheese in so many departments!

    I worry how long Harry will put up with nights like tonight
     
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  20. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Tom Huddlestone

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    Oddly from where I was a decade ago I agree with the director of football thing.

    As Poch is the sitting incumbent he should choose the director of football and then if he leaves the director of football chooses the next manager. Otherwise the whole thing does not work.
     

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