His Mrs was at the hospital and she saw people and now rob has anecdotal evidence and is convinced. No data or science will change his mind coz his Mrs saw them innit bruv.
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Sick sick world what is wrong with people
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His Mrs was at the hospital and she saw people and now rob has anecdotal evidence and is convinced. No data or science will change his mind coz his Mrs saw them innit bruv.
robp135
Naybet
Islam, same as Christianity and other religions has various denominations/sects. These are often regionalised. Some can be far more extreme in their views than others. Those extremes can often not match the overall culture of a country. A country in the UK’s case which is pretty much non religous at this point as well.
Mormons as an example, who I wouldnt even class as Christian but that’s an arguement for another time, to a higher degree beleive that it’s acceptable to have multiple wives and in many cases it is encouraged. Mormons also to a higher degree, beleive that the age in which someone can get married is far younger than the UK age of consent.
If there were was all of a sudden a mass influx of people wishing to emigrate to the UK from Utah where there is a higher percentage of Mormons, the immigration process should be stricter.
There are parts of Brazil with a large Jehovahs Witness population. I don’t know too much about that religion tbh but enough to know they have some very backward teachings. If people from that part of Brazil
Many Jewish people have Zionist views that are extreme. We should have a stricter immigration process for Israel.
Apply that to Islam. Some sects are pro cousin marriage. Others have women wear the full Burqa. Neither of these are in line with the overall values and culture that the UK. There are other views on homosexuality and women’s rights that are not in line with the overall values and culture of the UK. For parts of Africa, Asia and the Middle East where we you have higher numbers of people within those secs we should have stricter immigration laws.
It’s not about race. Most Mormons and Jews are white. If they hold extreme views we should not allow them in to the country.
We have not had as large an influx of migration or Mormons and Jews compared to Muslims. There are parts of England where you could not go to the supermarket without seeing a woman with a face covering. There are some parts of the country where the NHS is overwhelmed by the health impacts of cousin marriage.
It’s not the majority of Muslims you are right about that. But you can pinpoint the sects of Islam and the countries and regions where people are coming from that do not adhere to British values.
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
Cool, we got to a mutual ground on that at least.
Ultimately as per the OP point, different cultures with massively different values and cultures to the British have been coming here and making up essential parts of what makes the UK a great country. To name a few, those communities I mentioned earlier are all key to our society now IMO.
So robs policy. Is workout what sect someone is. How? By asking them or assuming. Both impossible to verify.
Next look at where they are from and assume they are like some of the people there. This is prejudiced.
Your idea is not practical.
Lost Mango
Niko Kranjcar
robp135
Naybet
Not impossible at all. The sects are regionalized and even in the poorest countries in the world most people have some level of a digital footprint. You can have a greater degree of scrutiny of anyone applying for asylum from places where they is a higher density of religious extremism.
Nobody should be entering the country without us knowing a great deal of detail about who they are. If we cannot verify who they are they shouldn't be allowed in.
Another example would actually be vaccines. As I understand you believe that vaccines should be mandatory. Some vaccines that contain a pork-derived gelatin, which is considered haram. Should anyone refuses to be vaccinated, or vaccinate their children due to this, be allowed to come to the UK?
robp135
Naybet
lol. To be clear I am very much a fan of human rights.
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
Na they can just be offered the alternative which doesn't contain it.
robp135
Naybet
But they cannot refuse?
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
You were linking the refusal to inclusion of pork trace, I am just stating there are alternatives to them in the MMR and Chickenpox variation......
robp135
Naybet
Meaning nobody should refuse to be vaccinated on religious grounds if they are trying to remain in the United Kingdom?
I don't think vaccines should be mandatory. Why do you lie so much?
Vaccines are not mandatory other than in your head
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
No, saying your analogy doesnt work because there are alternatives to the vaccines that dont contain pork trace....so not the home run of a point that you were trying to make fella
robp135
Naybet
So there are no vaccines which you believe should be mandatory?
robp135
Naybet
It works went you avoid answering the question.
Should anyone that is trying to move to the UK that refuses to be vaccinated on religious grounds be allowed to remain in the country?
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
Nope, your question was based on the point "due to this" as in, people refusing the vaccine due to pork trace. I just answered the inaccuracy in your analogy as there are alternatives without pork trace.
So I have answered your original question perfectly, you have decided to subsequently ask more questions because of the original poor point