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Van Der Vaart

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Jurgen the German, 8 Mar 2014.

  1. JerusalemMan

    JerusalemMan Clint Dempsey

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    FTFY
     
  2. galeforce

    galeforce Garth Crooks

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    nah, didn't we sign Keano on deadline day twice?

    as good as VdV was, Robbie did more for the club imo
     
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    greatwhitenorf Kasey Keller

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    To the tune of JC Superstar:

    Rafael
    Van der Vaart
    Tottenham Hotspur's
    Work of Art
     
  4. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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    indospurs Eidur Gudjohnsen

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    loved his passion though, wore his heart on his sleeve, scored some great goals. Wouldn't fit in our team today though
     
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    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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    Grays_1890 Young-Pyo Lee

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    Keano was the man, so good.

    VDV was great for different reasons I think, world class talent
     
  8. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Keane, for me, got to the point where he was more hinderance than help.

    When we got him he was an incredible talent who enhanced the side, by the time we sold him his limitations were obvious and beginning to hold us back.

    I think VDV was like Keane when he signed - incredible talent who enhanced the side, but came in at a time when we had already developed past Keane. He was a massive step up all round in those respects.
     
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    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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    Rorschach David Ginola

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    Retired today. One my favourites, ever.
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    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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    monkeybarry Simon Davies

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    Finished the video with a goal against the goons......leeeegend.
     
  13. MKSpur

    MKSpur Alan Hutton

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    Not second time around he didn’t!
     
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    MKSpur Alan Hutton

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    Fond memories of VdV, we got him as a bargain, like the former best selling toy discarded as broken after Christmas. Although he couldn’t move, we loved him and appreciated him more than his spoilt former owner who had lots of other expensive toys and because we played to his strengths it meant his technique and finishing made up for his lack of pace and therefore we got the most out of him. I think the appreciation was mutual between him and the fans.

    He also got what the derby meant ans delivered big time which really helped us take some big strides forward as a club, wish him all the best and hope to see him at NWHL.
     
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    Finney Is Back Chris Armstrong

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    Have a look at Keane’s Sky Sports 100 club video and you remember again how good he was. He was brilliant when he arrived and still brilliant when he left the club (the first time round I mean).

    VDV was my favorite player under Harry Redknapp. It was criminal that AVB let him go so easily.

    Both were amazing players for us, but I think Keane has to get the nod for longevity.
     
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    MKSpur Alan Hutton

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    The shame with Keane was we were the right club for each other, he had earned the run of the place and the backing of the fans, so he’d be kept on regardless of how he’d been doing and pop up with a lot of late important goals. When he left to go and play left wing for his boyhood club for
    70 mins at a time it ruined him and I was really disappointed we welcomed him back like nothing had happened. Plus other than one freakish game against someone like Hull he was never the same player for us either, it really was like getting back with someone after they’ve cheated on you!

    Compared to VdV Keane Mk1 may have given more, especially considering where we were as a club but VDV was more like a holiday romance that never got a chance to go stale...
     
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    nayimfromthehalfwayline Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    The whole Liverpool thing was a farce, and handled very badly - but its not something I hold against him.

    At the time he went there, I was pretty happy with the move, good luck to him.

    The problem was always, for me, he hadnt grown past being an instinctive striker, and we needed something more.

    Give him a split second, half turned away from goal, 3 defenders in front of him - inexplicably he will score.

    Put him 1 on 1 with the keeper and almost certainly he will screw it up. Time to think was a curse to him.

    Similar could be said about much of his play, hence my feeling we had grown past him.

    None of which is to say I wasnt I fan, I was, he was a great servent to the club and I can thank him for some great memories.
     
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    ricky2tricky4city Mitchell Thomas

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    Let's not forget his Mrs.
     
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    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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    Which one?!

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    Finney Is Back Chris Armstrong

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    I disagree completely. Keane was a very good player both in terms of his finishing and his general awareness. He was brilliant at finding space, was a very good finisher and also equally adept at creating goals as he was at scoring them.

    I thought it was notable that Jenas had Keane in his FFL 1 to 11, despite Jenas playing with a huge number of excellent players for Newcastle, Spurs and England. When commenting about Keane, Jenas specifically mentioned the intelligence of Keane's movement.

    Keane’s goalscoring record at Spurs was decent with his best seasons being his last two, where he scored 22 and then 23 goals. His partnership with Berbatov was fantastic and the two of them complimented each other really well.

    As I said before – watch his 100 club footage and you will remind yourself again of how good both his all round play and his finishing was. Keane was a class act and I think is a player who for some reason is seriously underrated by quite a few of our fans.

    Keane also scored 68 goals in 146 games for Ireland. That is a record better than Wayne Rooney’s was for England and Keane did this playing for an international team who are probably a third tier International side. You don't have a record like that without being a very good player.
     
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