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*** Tottenham Hotspur vs Chelsea *** OMT

Discussion in 'Classic Threads' started by Papercut, 28 Dec 2014.

  1. Rossi22

    Rossi22 Pedro Mendes

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    Isn't that a sample size of one game though? lol. He was shocking in that game mind, Mata gave him the runaround.
     
  2. superpav

    superpav Darren Caskey

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    24.02.2012 Wembley FA Cup SF 1 - 5 20.10.2012 H Premier League 2 - 4

    plus who remembers away last season walker and hes back pass header lol

    08.03.2014 A Premier League 0 - 4
     
  3. braineclipse

    braineclipse Barry Daines

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    Hopefully Bentaleb will be back for this one. Him alongside Stambouli or Mason, or possibly the 3 of them together.

    Lamela back for Townsend please. Walker back in of course. Possibly Dembele or Lennon for Chadli. Otherwise only chances if some players are exhausted.
     
  4. El Guepardo

    El Guepardo Paul Robinson

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    I'd be tempted to have Chiriches at right back with Walker on the right wing. We can then double up against Hazard, when defending. If we can then get someone on Fabregas, the game could be tight.
     
  5. Sandman

    Sandman Ruel Fox

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    Yes Fabregas is their key man. Him and Hazard drive that team. I would like us to man mark Cesc to take him out of the game and see if they can be as effective. Also Terry and Cahil are suspect in behind so I would love to see Lennon play or Townsend so they have to fear the pace. That will make them drop deeper and give us more space to play.
     
  6. El Guepardo

    El Guepardo Paul Robinson

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    I think Kane can have success against Terry, if Kane gets supplied early passes & runs at Terry, with pace. We need to be direct with our play, get the ball forward, quickly, and make the most of any opportunities.
     
  7. Jordinho

    Jordinho Bill Brown Staff Member

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    Wouldn't expect this to happen for us:

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  8. Papercut

    Papercut Jermaine Jenas

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    Haha, twas a joke fella (he's 16 apparently).

    Bobby should be fresh for this game
     
  9. Jordinho

    Jordinho Bill Brown Staff Member

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    Wait, are you calling me old?

    :bat:
     
  10. AdamB

    AdamB Luka Modric

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    Lloris

    Walker
    Fazio
    Verts
    Rose

    Bentaleb
    Mason

    Eriksen
    Kane
    Lamela

    Soldado
     
  11. LutonSpurs

    LutonSpurs Eric Dear

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    I think Costa will be a handful for both Verts and Fazio. Hazard needs to be doubled up on. So Walker and someone who tracks back like Lennon. Need some real steel in the middle. Bentaleb and Dembele. Even thought it seems Poch sees Dembele better as a 10. Got to contain them and counter.
     
  12. Bonsaiboy

    Bonsaiboy Steven Caulker Wind Up Merchant

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    I feel we need to try something a bit different.

    -----------------Lloris-----------------
    Walker-----Fazio--_Verts--------Davies
    ----------Stamb.---Bentaleb-----------
    ---Chadli-------------------Eriksen----
    ---------------Mason-------------------
    ---------------Kane---------------------
     
  13. Mumorn

    Mumorn Vic Buckingham

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    Lloris
    Walker - Fazio - Vertonghen - Davies
    Mason - Bentaleb
    Lamela - Eriksen - Townsend
    Kane​

    I'd have Eriksen as close to midfield as possible, staying as a 3 in midfield without possession. Stick Mason on Fabregas all game. Problem is, Matic is just as much as a danger. I think Mason would be more disciplined and more experienced for that type of role than Bentaleb, Nabil was excellent at Stamford Bridge though so I hope he can perform even as half as good.

    I've gone for Lamela as I feel he works ridiculously hard. He IS capable of magic, we have seen it and I feel he would be better suited for this game, Chelsea aren't going to be sitting back. I've also gone for Townsend as I feel he is the pace is needed, he's not VERY quick but he's the quickest we have at the moment, have him running at Ivanovic and be as direct as possible on his strongest side.

    I feel its very optimistic to say we will win this. Chelsea are a GREAT side and they will be at full strength for this. We will need to be on TOP of our game to win. I'd happily take a draw as we all would. But if we go a goal down or even lose the game, I want the same character we've seen from the players in recent weeks, no drop of heads. COYS!
     
  14. El Guepardo

    El Guepardo Paul Robinson

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    If we want to try something different...how about...

    5-4-1 with wing backs.

    Lloris
    Walker
    Chiriches
    Vertonghen
    Fazio
    Davies
    Stambouli
    Mason
    Bentaleb
    Eriksen
    Kane

    Have Eriksen playing just behind Kane. We try to get the ball forward quickly, with two quick passers in the team. The full backs provide the width. Bentaleb & Stambouli mostly sit, as defensive midfielders, whilst Mason runs on, to join Eriksen & Kane.

    Chiriches could work, with Walker, to close down Hazard. Whilst our three central midfielders help to stifle play in the middle. We play on the counter, utilising Kane's direct play against a fairly slow opposing defence.
     
  15. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Jimmy McCormick

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    -------------------------------Lloris--------------------------------

    Chiriches----------Fazio-----------------------Verts---------Davies

    -------------------Stambouli------------------Bentaleb-------------

    Lennon------------------------Mason--------------------------Eriksen

    --------------------------------Kane-----------------------------------

    Subs: Vorm, Kaboul, Rose, Dembele, Chadli, Townsend, Soldado

    Rationale:

    - Lennon down the right, good cover for Chiriches and will also stretch the game going forward, forcing one of Matic or Fabregas to shuffle across to cover and hopefully decongesting the centre a bit.

    - Eriksen down the left, allows him to drift infield and hopefully gain a bit more space than he would otherwise get going up against a DM duo like Chelsea's given the Lennon effect on the right.

    - Mason at the clam slot: his closing down could do a lot of damage in behind Kane, he's defensively adept enough to drop in for Bentaleb/Stambouli allowing one of them to shuffle across to help Davies when we don't have possession, and him and Kane seem to have an understanding.

    - Chiriches instead of Walker - personal preference, he does a decent job there and I don't want Walker rushed back and looking rusty (as was the case in recent games).
     
  16. Modric THFC

    Modric THFC Chris Perry

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    Only played at home against them 3 times

    2013/14 1-1
    2012/13 2-4
    2011/12 1-1

    You're talking through your hosepipe
     
  17. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Jimmy McCormick

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    Beat me to it! :lol:
     
  18. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Jimmy McCormick

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    I see Jose is setting up for Chelski to earn an early pelanty with his 'Campaign against Chelski' rant....

    Anyway, I'd go with:



    Lloris

    Walker -- Fazio -- Verts -- Davies

    Mason -- Stambouli -- Dembele

    Lamela -- Kane -- Eriksen ​

    A solid point or a smash-and-grab late 1-0 is possible! COYS!
     
  19. GrimsbyYid

    GrimsbyYid Gus Poyet

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    Presuming kabout, Naughton, Capoue, lennon and ade are all fall out bye byes. This is what it luck love to see

    ------------Lloris
    Walker-Fazio-Jan-Dacies
    ---Stambouli-Dembele
    Lamela-----Kane----Erikse
    -----------Soldado

    - back 5 picks itself
    - I think we are shockingly weak in midfield and like most think dembele works better higher up. But I really don't rete mason, or bentaleb too much to be honest, and especially how they both performed last time we play Chelsea. Two stronger players needed
    - kane is better in a number 10
     
  20. THFC6061

    THFC6061 Johnny Morrison

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    Tottenham Hotspur host Chelsea at White Hart Lane on New Year's Day, Thursday 1st January 2015 (KO 17:30) in the 20th round of 2014-15 Premier League matches.

    Spurs come into the game in 7th place on 31 points with Chelsea League leaders on 46 points. This will be the 194th time the two teams have met each other.

    Chelsea are one of the few major English football teams who never played Spurs during the Victorian Era, as they were only founded in 1905 and were admitted into the Second Division of the Football League without ever having played a match before.

    This was due to the rivalry that existed at the time between the Football League and the Southern League with the former desperate to make in-roads into the lucrative markets which London and the South-East provided.

    The first meeting between Spurs and Chelsea was a friendly played at Stamford Bridge in February 1908 and ended in a 1-1 draw.

    The same venue saw the first Football League Division One encounter in December 1909 and Chelsea won that match 2-1.

    The return fixture at White Hart Lane was won by Spurs 2-1 and in between those two matches the clubs met in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in a match which Spurs won 1-0 at Stamford Bridge.

    Spurs and Chelsea would meet for another three seasons in the First Division before the outbreak of World War One with honours even at two wins for Spurs, two wins for Chelsea and two drawn matches.

    14 games were played during the First World War and these featured many players who 'guested' for both clubs. Five of Tottenham's "home" games were played at Arsenal's Highbury Stadium.

    Spurs and Chelsea had finished in the bottom two places in the last season of the First Division when war broke out and when football resumed in 1919, the Division was expanded from 20 to 22 teams.

    Arsenal engineered a 'promotion' to the First Division at Spurs' expense but Tottenham easilly won the Division Two Championship and the next season had two emphatic wins over Chelsea 5-0 at home and 4-0 at the Bridge.

    The teams would meet for another five seasons in the First Division and two seasons in the Second Division during the inter-war period - season 1929-30 was the last time Spurs & Chelsea played League games outside the Top Flight of English Football.

    Spurs only lost two of those 14 League matches.

    During World War Two, 16 games were played between Spurs and Chelsea

    Spurs returned to the First Division in season 1950-51 and did the 'double' over Chelsea winning 2-0 away and 2-1 at home on their way to the first Football League Championship.

    Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea contested the first all-London FA Cup Final in 1967 at Wembley with Spurs winning 2-1 thanks to goals scored by Jimmy Robertson and Frank Saul.

    The first meeting in the Football League Cup came in the 1971-72 Semi-Finals with Chelsea winning the first leg at Stamford Bridge 3-2 and Spurs only managing a 2-2 draw at White Hart Lane.

    Both clubs were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and both have been ever-present for the 23 seasons of the competition, along with Arsenal, Aston Villa, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester United. Chelsea have very much had the upper hand during the Premier League Era with 25 wins to Tottenham's 3 with the remaining 15 matches drawn.

    A second domestic Cup Final was contested in 2008 when Spurs beat Chelsea in the Football League (Carling) Cup Final 2-1 after extra time at Wembley. A Dimitar Berbatov pelanty and a Jonathan Woodgate header ensured the silverware would once again reside in North London.

    The 2010-11 fixture in December at White Hart Lane resulted in a 1-1 draw with Roman Pavlyuchenko scoring for Spurs after 15 minutes and Didier Drogba getting Chelsea's equaliser after 70 minutes. Drogba's injury time pelanty was saved by Heurelho Gomes.

    The reverse fixture at Stamford Bridge in April was won by Chelsea 2-1 with Spurs taking a 19th minute lead through Sandro and Frank Lampard equalising on half time. Salomon Kalou scored the winner after 89 minutes.

    The 2011-12 match at White Hart Lane in December resulted in a 1-1 draw with Emmanuel Adebayor putting Spurs ahead after 8 minutes and Chelsea's Daniel Sturridge getting the equaliser in the 23rd minute. The game at Stamford Bridge in March ended in a goalless draw.

    Chelsea won the 2012 FA Cup Semi-Final at Wembley 5-1 with the turning-point coming from a 49th minute Juan Mata goal which never crossed the line. Didier Drogba had put the Blues ahead just before the interval and Spurs managed to pull a goal back in the 56th minute through Gareth Bale. Three further goals from Ramares, Lampard and Malouda were added for Chelsea.

    Andre Villas-Boas was sacked as Chelsea's manager in March 2012 and became the manager of Tottenham Hotspur on 3rd July 2012. The match at White Hart Lane in October 2012 was won by Chelsea 4-2. A Gary Cahill volly after 17 minutes was the only goal of the first half and Spurs went ahead with goals from William Gallas and Jermain Defoe. A brace from Juan Mata and a Daniel Sturridge goal gave Chelsea the three points.

    The teams drew 2-2 at Stamford Bridge in May 2013 with Oscar opening the scoring after 10 minutes and Emmanuel Adebayor getting the equaliser after 26 minutes. Ramires put Chelsea ahead again after 39 minutes but Gylfi Sigurdsson scored 10 minutes from the end.

    Sigurdsson scored again in the 19th minute at White Hart Lane in September 2013 to put Spurs 1-0 ahead of Chelsea but John Terry equalised for the Blues after 65 minutes to ensure the points were shared. Chelsea ran-out 4-0 winners in the game at Stamford Bridge in March 2014 with goals from Samuel Eto'o, Eden Hazard and a brace from Demba Ba.

    Chelsea won the Premier League match in December 2014 at Stamford Bridge 3-0 with goals from Eden Hazard, Didier Drogba and Loic Remy.

    Overall, Spurs have won 68, Chelsea have won 76 and 49 of the 193 matches between the two clubs have been drawn.


    Clive Allen
    Les Allen

    Jimmy Armstrong
    Frank Arnesen (Director of Football both clubs)
    Eddie Bailey
    Ted Birnie
    Danny Blanchflower (Spurs player, Chelsea manager)
    Derek Brazil
    Johnny Brooks
    Bill Cartwright
    Sid Castle
    David Copeland
    Carlo Cudicini
    Jason Cundy
    Kerry Dixon
    Gordon Durie
    Mark Falco
    William Gallas

    Lee Gardner
    George Graham (Chelsea player, Spurs manager)
    Jimmy Greaves
    Frode Grodas
    Eidur Gudjohnsen

    Tommy Harmer (Spurs player, Chelsea coach)
    Alan Harris (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager)
    Micky Hazard
    Glenn Hoddle
    (Spurs & Chelsea player & manager)
    Stewart Houston (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager)
    Percy Humphries
    Steve Kelly
    John Kirwan
    Colin Lee
    Scott Parker
    Gustavo Poyet
    Graham Roberts
    Max Seeburg

    Buchanan Sharp
    Bobby Smith
    Neil Sullivan

    Andy Thompson (Spurs player, Chelsea coach)
    Sid Tickridge
    Jimmy Townley
    Terry Venables (also Spurs manager)
    Andre Villas-Boas (manager at both clubs)
    Keith Weller
    Ernie Walley (Spurs player, Chelsea asst. manager)
    Harry Wilding
    Clive Wilson
    Vivian Woodward


     

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