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Toby Alderweireld

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by DubaiSpur, 8 Jul 2015.

  1. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Michael Carrick

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    Excerpt from The Independent pre-match article:

    Pochettino appears likely to make some changes to his side given their congested fixture list, which sees them play nine games in 30 days.

    He added: “We are assessing them, maybe yes, maybe no. If we feel the player is going to take some risks then of course we are going to rest.

    “It is not important the name. If we believe we need to rest some players we are going to rest, we are not going to take a risk.

    “We are going to put in a player that we believe can cope with 90 minutes of effort.

    “We know you cannot 100 per cent avoid the risk on the player but we need to be sure the players that are going to play are ready to compete.”

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...nham-to-triumph-on-arsenal-turf-37584149.html
     
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  2. Robbo

    Robbo Steve Carr

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    Hindsight of course, but Toby's experience would have been vital at the back IMO. As much as I rate Foyth, for a NLD derby away, you want calm and experienced heads out there. Not saying that would've made a big difference, as most players were poor yesterday, but I'd still play a fit Toby over Foyth at the Emirates.
     
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  3. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Until a year ago - absolutely. But he's not the same player since his injuries/long lay offs though. He's looking more like late career Dawson in the high line these days.
     
  4. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Michael Carrick

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    Like most on here I felt before kick off that Aldereiweld should have started. In normal circumstances Aldereiweld's experience ought always to trump Foyth's youth and pace in a match of this intensity.

    However it was clear from the way most of the team played against Arse that concentration and match sharpness were widely lacking. The sheer number of crazy, unforced errors and lack of application - especially by the second half - spoke of spent energy and weary legs.

    Going by his pre-match comments it seems likely that Poch could already see prior to the game that speed, application and energy were going to be a problem at the Emirates. For most of us the decision looked dodgy from the moment the team-sheet was announced. But what we do not know of course is what Poch and his coaching staff could see.

    Maybe he and his coaches concluded that a third high-intensity game in eight days would be a bridge too far the aging Alderweireld whereas the pace and youth of Foyth might be enough to make the difference. It turned out to be the mistake we all feared but maybe it was simply a case of no matter who he picked there would have been a price to pay one way or another?
     
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  5. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Simon Davies

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    In fairness though, I am sure no one expected Jan to have such an awful game. Yes, he is just back from injury and might be a bit match rusty. But that was more than rustiness on Sunday. His should have been the experienced, guiding head alongside Foyth.

    Edit : I meant assuming there was good reason not to start Toby
     
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  6. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Paul Walsh

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    Was only just over a year ago he pulled his hamstring so maybe the physio thought he was on the verge of doing it again.
     
  7. StephenH

    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    He was Arsenals 15th man
    Kill him!
     
  8. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Gerry Armstrong

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    Check the Pochettino thread, all is explained in simpleton's terms.
     
  9. Jurgen the German

    Jurgen the German Andy Thompson

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    Yeah, essentially all the players that have left (Walker) other than Bale, refused to sign new contracts (Toby) or have been critical of the club (Rose) are over the hill, past it, not as good as the players that played in their places last year (Trippier, Sanchez and Davies).
     
  10. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    That's his move to United permanently put to bed then. No way any new coach is going to be demanding they pay up for a 30 year old with iffy hamstrings
     
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  11. galeforce

    galeforce Tony Galvin

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    player manager?
     
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    Huddy Sergei Rebrov

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    I don't know, have you seen Utd's central defenders? That backline needs some serious quality and experience added and should be the number one priority for any new manager and Alderweireld would be a good option for them.
     
  13. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Ruel Fox

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    they have probably gone through all of the effort to tap him up as well so may as well keep going.
     
  14. We are Tottenham

    We are Tottenham Pascal Chimbonda

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    We should hang on to Toby at all costs this season and i'd rather the club keep him even if it means not buying anyone else this transfer window....he is that important to the team and squad! IMO.
     
  15. Raziel

    Raziel Steve Carr

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    He's important, and for it's worth he seems a total professional, still looks like enjoys the team, no risk

    I honestly think his window (like Rose) is gone, older, a few more injuries, still good but not the absolute monster he was.

    He may want to rethink if he will find a better team than us for significantly more money that the new Spurs wage structure.
     
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    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    He seems to be getting some of his form back lately, if he keeps that up i am happy to see him stay.
     
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    Rorschach Erik Thorstvedt

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    He seems to be in a lot of the Spurs PR stuff recently. I wonder is that a sign of anything.
     
  18. harr1984

    harr1984 Steve Carr

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    He also is one of the first ones there celebrating when we score, he’s loving it....
     
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    GGyid Jason Dozzell

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    Jimmy Greaves - greatest Spurs player ever
    First name on the teamsheet for me, always has been. I'd pay him what he wants.
     
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  20. Hootnow

    Hootnow Milija Aleksic

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    Still one of the best cbs in the league for £25 million? No brainer.

    We're also overplaying his injury issues. He played 38 and then 30 league games first 2 seasons. 14 last season but he was clearly dropped, at least partly, for non football reasons after return from his injury.

    Also played 15 of 17 games so far this season.
     

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