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Time wasting.

jts1882 said:
Iirc, when it has been measured the ball is in play about 55 minutes, so going to a 60 minute clock would get us more football. The danger is that once the game clock is stopped, the authories decide to use the time "productively". An injury, lets have a water break and show a few messages from our friends.

The referees should just enforce the rules. They should also introduce new rules on the time before a throw-in, free-kick or corner is taken. In particular, there is no reason throw-ins need take longer than six seconds (the supposed goalkeeper handling limit); no need for the player to send for towels while the Neanderthal centre-backs amble up the field.
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Agreed about the stop watch, it will just be a handy excuse to ruin football matches with in game ads. An inverted stop watch would be better - someone adding up all the wasted time, making 12 minute injury time normal.

The best thing, however, would be refs with spines, booking time wasting immediately when it starts. Just like diving, shirt pulling, injury feigning, etc; players will keep doing it until the risk of punishment is too big. If players know they will be carded if they waste time, they won't waste time. If they know they can push it for 20-30-40 minutes before the ref takes action, they will push it because it will be worth it.
 
Aldo said:
...or grabbing the ball when they fall over. This 400% guarantees a free kick, I have genuinely never seen a player booked for handball in these circumstances.
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Agreed, I’ve only seen the player booked once in that situation, pretty sure it was Son too.
 
All very well being holier than thou but we do it when it suits us. And the stop will do nothing for time-wasting when the ball is in play. Kane is the specialist at taking the ball into the corner in the final minutes to protect a lead.

Besides, the officials did us a favour keeping it to just 4 mins yesterday.

So: careful what you wish for.
 
Robbo said:
Agreed about the stop watch, it will just be a handy excuse to ruin football matches with in game ads. An inverted stop watch would be better - someone adding up all the wasted time, making 12 minute injury time normal.

The best thing, however, would be refs with spines, booking time wasting immediately when it starts. Just like diving, shirt pulling, injury feigning, etc; players will keep doing it until the risk of punishment is too big. If players know they will be carded if they waste time, they won't waste time. If they know they can push it for 20-30-40 minutes before the ref takes action, they will push it because it will be worth it.
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Exactly, the rules are generally fine. It just needs the referees to interpret them in a better way; show some spine, as you say. This is not like the call for VAR where the aim is to correct things the referee (and assistants) can't see because of the speed of the game.
 
Legohamster said:
All teams do, even spurs.

Score early and it’s not an issue.
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All teams do it because the other teams do it. But if teams were prevented from time wasting, teams wouldn't need to copy to avoid losing out. The current implementation of the rules favours a race to the bottom.

It's similar to the argument over "diving" and "going down easily" to "help" the referee. If the other team do it, then you lose out by not doing the same. It would be solved if the referee would call fouls when they happen, then players wouldn't need to help, but it's almost impossible for a referee to see everything. Time wasting is much easier to see.
 
the dza said:
Nowadays, all anyone has to do is go down injured whilst holding their head. Ref will stop the game and the flow of the game gets broken up.
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May have to get into a challenge to do that. Usually the ball goes out of play many more times than players get injured or fake injury, so more chance to time waste.
 
burnley did nothing wrong, i would have done the same if i was dyche, it almost worked out for them, good refereeing to give out yellow cards, it shouldn't be more punitive than that, the ref did all he could do, if you can't break a team down after 90 mins, u don't deserve to win.
 
SteveAWOL said:
Hopefully they actually come up with something to cut down on time wasting at the annual IAFB meeting next March.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-s...r-league-to-be-examined-reports-idUKKCN1MC1JS
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they don't need to come up with anything. like with so many rules in football, all that is needed is for the refs to actually enforce them - a booking for holding up play the first time they do it, and then a red card when they do it again. but as we all know, the refs lack the character and ability to enforce simple rules.

the issue is more to do with pathetic refereeing than anything else imo.
 
Wilheldiva said:
they don't need to come up with anything. like with so many rules in football, all that is needed is for the refs to actually enforce them - a booking for holding up play the first time they do it, and then a red card when they do it again. but as we all know, the refs lack the character and ability to enforce simple rules.

the issue is more to do with pathetic refereeing than anything else imo.
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We had all this a few decades back. The Big Idea was goalies had six seconds to take a gk. Was enforced for a few weeks then forgotten about.
 
Spur of the moment said:
We had all this a few decades back. The Big Idea was goalies had six seconds to take a gk. Was enforced for a few weeks then forgotten about.
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There is a time limit of six seconds to release the ball when the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands. There is still no time limit for taking a goal kick.
 
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