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Thoughts on the new season

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by superfaisty, 7 Aug 2018.

  1. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Pedro Mendes

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    While I dont agree with all of your assumptions I think its fair.

    Id say a good chance of top 4, and go well in the cups. Impossible to say anything more because its a lottery.

    I dont think Man U will be stronger this year (and still dont understand how they finished above us last year!). Their defence is still poor, and despite Fred coming in/Sanchez settling - Mourinho is going through the gears in sucking the life out of them and alienating players. I feel his poison will sap the life out of that team. Of course, theyll still get results and be in the mix, but better than last year? Not for me.

    Liverpool look like they should be stronger. Much depends on their new buys being as good as people assume (and we know about assumptions), and Salah being incredible again (will he?). I fully expect them in the mix.

    Chelsea - simply, who knows?! Looks like a first class midfield, but a poor defence, misfiring striker and new manager to settle. Even if he gets them in good shape will it be early enough in the season to really mount a challenge?

    Arsenal - same again for the most part. Except they have a great front line, poor midfield and defence. Like Liverpool a number of buys to settle, and new manager of course.

    I think, personally, our general quality and stability should be a major advantage and think we should be expecting a strong run at top 4.

    If we can get a good start, that would set us up for it IMO.
     
  2. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Courtois and worse/new manager. They still got no striker and Hazard in particular is unsettled/wanting out/may still go
     
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  3. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Pedro Mendes

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    Hazard is flaky, all depends on his mood.

    He could perform for them like Salah did for Liverpool last year, or he could be dead weight all season - who knows which theyll get.
     
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  4. galeforce

    galeforce Willie Hall

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    liverpool have signed a load of midfielders, but don't use a midfield
     
  5. galeforce

    galeforce Willie Hall

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    not to say that it won't improve their ball winning, I really like Fabinho, I'd have loved to have him here but he's obviously financially out of our reach
     
  6. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Cecil Poynton

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    Dont forget Bakayoko looks great at Monaco too, not that we should judge Fabinho on him. Fabinho has always impressed me

    People are raving about other clubs signings and none are proven in a league of this nature that I've seen

    Jorginho hada rude awakening in the charity shield as he reapplied he had NO time on the ball for example

    Keita is a player i rate but he can be like a bull in a china shop and very rash with his challenges (3 sendings off last year)

    I always think people get excited at how much someone costs rather than their suitability and experience personally...

    I think I'm right in saying the only big signing made by anyone so far who has won a major trophy is Fabinho with the French league and Kovacivic as a sub at Madrid
     
  7. AdamB

    AdamB Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    SO you're ignoring the fact that they've signed Kovacic and Jorginho?
     
  8. galeforce

    galeforce Willie Hall

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    completely agree
     
  9. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Cecil Poynton

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    Who are how much better than what they had???

    Who knows ???
     
  10. AdamB

    AdamB Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    I'd go based on their prior career records. Obviously they might not settle, but setting that side Kovacic and Joginho are very, very good additions
     
  11. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Cecil Poynton

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    Neither has won anything have they as a first team player?

    One was a sub against the side we beat last year In the CL

    Their names
    Their players with reputations forged in other leagues
    Hell they may turn out to be brilliant
    But playing in arguably the hardest position to play they will need to adapt very quickly
     
  12. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Alan Hutton

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    Fabinho made Bakayoko look like a good footballer, there is hope for Henderson yet!

    Jorginho with Kante next to him will make things a little easier - from all reports Chelsea will need patience while Sari's methods begin to stick, not something you associate with Chelsea.
     
  13. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Cecil Poynton

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    All true

    Bakayoko was never a player I was impressed with personally, same with Rudiger

    Jorginho is a great footballer and a player that possibly reminds me on Modric but he has never played here and thats gonna be a shock for him
     
  14. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Jimmy Neighbour

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    I think we will do very well to get top 4..It has to be remembered that we were running on fumes by the end of the season and had been effectively since the heroic win at Stamford Bridge in April.

    Our cm is ripe for big exposure this season and it's inexplicable that we didn't strengthen in that area tbh.
    Wanyama and Dembele are both on their last legs (if that) and I think Dier and whomever partners him (as seems the likely thing we'll have to do now) will be identified by our competitors as our area of weakness to wait and exploit..

    All so unnecessary in a unique season where our usual local nemeses are in EL and have problems themselves..we haven't taken advantage at all and we'll rue nor doing so imo:(
     
  15. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Alan Hutton

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    I really don't get the narrative that Dembele is on his last legs, I don't remember a lot of games where he looked exposed last season (none more than he normally has over the season) and there were a fair few where he looked a beast (Juve away noticeably). He was as physically fit as I remember and even managed 2 games in a week a few times. If he had longer on his contract I would not be looking to offload.

    I know he had a rubbish WC but Martinez...
     
  16. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Pedro Mendes

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    For me its not that he is on his last legs when he plays, its the frequency of injuries/unreliability in that sense.
    Also, when he has been injured, he takes a few games to get up to speed.

    Aside from his apparent desire to leave, I think we should look at succeeding him anyway, but for now I have no issue with him for this season, and if he is playing I dont see him as a liability.


    For me, if we switch to a 4-3-3 type set up, we arent exposed in midfield at all and arguably set up in a way that favours more players.

    .............................vorm
    ............................LLORIS

    aurier.........alderweireld.....foyth...............rose
    TRIPPIER.....SANCHEZ..........VERTONGHEN....DAVIES

    ............................wanyama
    ..............................DIER
    ....................winks..........dembele
    ...................ERIKSEN........ALLI

    ........lamela.................................... ?
    .......MOURA.....................................SON
    ...........................llorente
    .............................KANE

    Very well balanced for me, everyone playing to their strengths, and no obvious weakness bar that gap at LWF - though Alli has done if before.
     
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  17. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    But then last winter Winks bossed Modric and Kroos twice and looked a world beater
     
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  18. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    I think his ratio of top vs mediocre performances has been falling for a while. We know he has that chronic hip condition that is going to keep getting worse too

    The moment Pogba bullied him off the ball in the cup semi was a bit of realisation moment too I think. That would never have happened to him at his peak
     
  19. parklane1

    parklane1 Steffen Freund

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    Would agree with this, the problem with Dembélé is you never know what you are going to get from him ( ie a massive game or one where he missing for a lot of the game) I do not see his injurys getting any less frequent and i was hoping we would sell him during the window.

    We really need ( imo) to get a settled midfield and if we are changing it all the time because of him being a option ( which has let us down in the past) then that will not happen.
     
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  20. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Maybe the solution is that he just becomes Winks' back-up

    And has a special quasi-coaching role of working developing Onomah
     

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