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The Carabao Cup 2020/21

Discussion in 'General Football' started by nayenezgani, 23 Dec 2020.

  1. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Dean Austin

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    Good spot, pep will definitely prioritise CL semi, that said if we are still in the Europa semi, it’s arguably a bigger game than the league cup final.
     
  2. Baleforce

    Baleforce Paul Miller

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    no way City will get to the CL semi's
     
  3. metalgear

    metalgear Jimmy McCormick

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    Good chance we get to Europa semi though. If so I think JM would want to win both!

    Sent from my SM-T865 using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
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  4. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Tom Huddlestone

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    FTFY :D
     
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  5. greatwhitenorf

    greatwhitenorf Young-Pyo Lee

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    That outbreak of Covid with Villa is a bit convenient for them. If the game is postponed, they'll get to save the legs of their best players for the midweek game against us.

    Kind of like how we looked suddenly sharp and snappy against Leeds once the Fulham game was postponed.

    I'm thinking Villa would rather battle for the top four than the FA Cup and they're in decent shape to do that.
     
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  6. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Tom Huddlestone

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  7. Baleforce

    Baleforce Paul Miller

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    Should we not be the home team, we were the first side to win a semi?
     
  8. MKSpur

    MKSpur Pat van den Hauwe

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    Sometimes you really have to applaud how the people in charge of the game keep coming up with new and inventive ways to suck the tradition, passion and common sense out of it.
     
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  9. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    I thought we was being told last week if fans would be at the game ??
     
  10. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Christian Ziege

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    Unlucky green kit! Suppose we get the away changing room too.
     
  11. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Colin Calderwood

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    To be fair, it's rare that both teams wear the home kit when we play City, and we've beat them several times with the away kit.
     
  12. Robbo

    Robbo Pedro Mendes

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    www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56630189

    The Carabao Cup final between Tottenham and Emirates Marketing Project will have 8,000 fans in attendance after it was confirmed as a pilot event to test the return of big crowds.

    A proportion of tickets will be made available to both clubs for the game at Wembley Stadium on 25 April.
     
  13. yiddo37

    yiddo37 Bobby Mimms

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    Not sure that's quite true, may be wrong though?
    I remember the 2-1 win when Eriksen got the winner, we wore the home shirt IIRC?
     
  14. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Colin Calderwood

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    Yes, and City played in black. Just do a Google search, and you will see that there is rarely any pictures with both teams in their home kit.
     
  15. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    The Carabao Cup Final on Sunday 25 April between Emirates Marketing Project and Tottenham Hotspur is to be held as a scientific test event with some spectators, including some football fans, inside Wembley Stadium.
    In a fight against a global pandemic, there is far more at stake than how a football match goes ahead. But the details of how the match goes ahead are important for two main reasons.


    First, that the results of the test are able to draw on data that is as accurate as possible in order to provide the best possible information with which to keep COVID-19 at bay. And second, that there is the highest possible level of public confidence in how the event is staged.

    We believe the failure of the Government and public health authorities to properly consult with football supporters’ organisations threatens to have a negative impact on both of those outcomes. Throughout the crisis, supporters’ groups have shown a willingness and ability to put public health first. Our knowledge and willingness to play our part could have been used productively. Instead, once again, supporters have been utterly disregarded – something that is even more worrying and insulting when spectators are being subjected to a mass experiment.

    With fewer than three weeks to go until the final, there are many questions unanswered. Here are 36 of the major ones. We remain willing to work with government and public health authorities for a practical resolution to the issues raised.

    1. How has the number of 8,000 tickets for the event been decided upon?
    2. How many of those tickets are going to each of the competing clubs? NB: the reported figure of 2,000 per club has not been confirmed
    3. How many tickets are going to residents of Brent?
    4. How many tickets are going to key workers and how is a key worker being defined?
    5. What measures are in place to ensure tickets are not touted for inflated prices?
    6. What are General Admission supporters within the clubs’ allocations being charged for tickets?
    7. Are local residents being charged for tickets? If so, how much?
    8. Are key workers being charged for tickets? If so, how much?
    9. How will tickets be distributed and will they be in electronic or paper format?
    10. What COVID-19 tests will those attending be required to take before the game?
    11. What measures are in place to ensure those presenting at the stadium with tickets have taken those tests?
    12. What tests will those attending be required to take after the game?
    13. How is the testing regime to be enforced?
    14. Will all COVID-19 tests be carried out in London?
    15. If all tests are being carried out in London, what help will non-London based spectators get in accessing them?
    16. Is there to be any charge for the tests required?
    17. What exactly is being tested as part of the Events Research Programme at this match?
    18. How will information on the scientific experiment be communicated?
    19. Will fans be fully informed of the nature of the scientific experiment they are taking part in and the potential risks, in line with the Helsinki Declaration on Ethics in Medical Research?
    20. Are there any geographical restrictions on who can attend?
    21. Are the Government and public health authorities aware that fans of both competing teams live in all parts of the country, and abroad?
    22. Are there any restrictions on transport to and from the game?
    23. What are the transport arrangements for the game in terms of additional TFL and Chiltern Rail rolling stock?
    24. Will the stadium car parks be open?
    25. What parts of Wembley Stadium will be open for GA spectators? Solely Level 1?
    26. What corporate areas of Level 2 will be open?
    27. Will there be any match day hospitality and if so, what numbers and where?
    28. Have the Government, local authority and football authorities donated any or all of the allocation they would normally get to key workers?
    29. Will there be some parts of the stadium in which no social distancing is required?
    30. Will there be some parts of the stadium in which mask wearing is not required?
    31. What time will the stadium open for hospitality and for GA spectators?
    32. Will there be a staggered arrival system?
    33. What measures are being taken to prevent a build-up of crowds at the entrance points?
    34. What facilities will be available inside the stadium?
    35. What approach is being taken to policing and stewarding the event?
    36. Will there be a staggered departure system?

    In addition to the above, we are in discussions with Tottenham Hotspur Football Club around plans for allocating their pot of tickets. We are looking to clarify the total number of tickets given to Spurs and how many of those will be available for GA Season Ticket holders; the ticket application process; whether fans can apply in groups; the practical method of ticket distribution; any returns policy should a fan be unable to attend the event and/ or return a positive COVID-19 test; and the pricing structure for tickets.

    A Cup Final is not an average sporting event that happens dozens of times a year. It’s the culmination of a competition, a tournament. That fact does not mean a Final is more important than effectively combatting a global virus. But it does have an impact on decisions about attendance and patterns of attendance, and about how ticket markets operate.

    Fan organisations know how important it is to put public health first. Because we’re the public too. And that’s why we should have been consulted alongside all other stakeholders from the very beginning of the planning process. Instead, the public health authorities have not contacted us. The local authority, Brent Council, has continued its policy of refusing to talk to football fans. And we have learned that competition organisers the English Football League does not think fans are “relevant stakeholders”.

    We could have helped save a lot of time and effort had we been properly consulted. We could have made a positive contribution to an event that had the confidence of the public, and which returned a better quality of research. The fact that we haven’t indicates either arrogance or carelessness. Neither inspires confidence.

    We are now focussed on ensuring as many tickets as possible go to the fans of each club, and that those who are lucky enough to attend are fully aware of the risks they are taking and the experiment in which they are participating.

    THST Board
    5 April 2021
     
  16. Jordinho

    Jordinho Bill Brown Staff Member

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    Making decisions? Without consulting the trust? How very dare they.
     
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  17. MKSpur

    MKSpur Pat van den Hauwe

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    It’s just arrogant and careless.

    We could have helped save a lot of time and effort had we been properly consulted. We could have made a positive contribution to an event that had the confidence of the public, and which returned a better quality of research. The fact that we haven’t indicates either arrogance or carelessness. Neither inspires confidence.:confused:
     
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  18. scaramanga

    scaramanga Sonny Walters Staff Member

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    People treating THST as the irrelevance they are and THST getting all hissy about it is one of my favourite things on the internet.

    The sheer time-consuming length of their whinge is just one of the many reasons nobody ever wants to consult with them.
     
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  19. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    I knew you would like my post hahah
     
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  20. Baleforce

    Baleforce Paul Miller

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    I realised it was the trust before getting 1/4 way down the list.
     

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