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The Art of VAR

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Gutter Boy, 28 Feb 2018.

  1. StephenH

    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    I’m shocked!

    I never knew you had friends ;)

    Seriously it is too long I’m hoping they can get these delays down!
    But whatever does happen it’s going ahead.
     
  2. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla Chris Armstrong

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    Why wasn’t the incident right at the end of the game with Chiellini VAR’d for, at the very least, obstruction? He basically made a no arms rugby tackle in the area on Morata. Or does it depend on the profile of the club whether that gets reviewed? Had it been Godin on Ronaldo I think it’s given, but maybe I’m cynical?
     
  3. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Ruel Fox

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    Don't worry VAR will get rid of these conspiracy theories and bias for the richer teams
     
  4. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Gerry Armstrong

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    It is a joke really, like I said before, I dont care if its the system or how it is used, it is not being used correctly.

    Its crap
     
  5. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Gerry Armstrong

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    So the clock ticks down when VAR is under review but then its not added back on? Bit of a shocker that.

    Its pretty mad that this is still being tested in such elite comps
     
  6. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Ruel Fox

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    I listen to a fair few football podcasts, some foreign football and it seems to me that their views of VAR are moving from largely supportive to anti VAR. The typical issues are that it favours the big teams, the time it takes and the fact most contentious issues are largely subjective and VAR does not benefit them. The good does not outweigh the bad.

    This is by no means conclusive proof nor meant to be but it is what I am hearing.
     
  7. StephenH

    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    I’m a var fan but the delays need working on!
    @parklane1 will be rocking up and digging me out in a moment.
     
  8. parklane1

    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    Not at all mate its all about opinions, you like it and i think its a farce.
     
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  9. StephenH

    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    Just pulling your leg Mr.
    Alway sit there when these delays are occurring think “he won’t be happy”:mad:
     
  10. parklane1

    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    I know :), having been at several games where VAR has been used i am sick to death of being stood around not knowing what the fudge is happening. Its fine for the couch potatoes as they at least have some idea what is happening from the commentators.
     
  11. bjholmem

    bjholmem Bobby Zamora

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    I watched Barca vs Lyon yesterday, switched on just as Lyon's goal was being reviewed for offside. I took one look at the still picture and thought "too tight to call, give it". Five minutes later we had the goal. Why it should take so long for professional referees to call it, is beyond me. If it takes more than one minute to get the decision right, just let the referee's call on the field stand.

    They also added just two minutes at the end of the game, but since Barcelona had a four goal lead, there was really no point in adding much more.
     
  12. StephenH

    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    You should have a “decision pending” like in cricket, at least?
    But they need to sort it, even for us potatoes.
     
  13. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Ruel Fox

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    They insist that offsides are objective (without having the technology to be so as yet) so have to keep looking as it has to be 400%
     
  14. MKSpur

    MKSpur Andy Sinton

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    If something takes more than 30 seconds to decide a clear and obvious mistake then it’s not clear and obvious so let the original decision stand.
     
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  15. Jordinho

    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    Complete travesty again tonight. Oh wait, there was no VAR.
     
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  16. StephenH

    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    The FA cup is joke a tonight not having VAR.
     
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  17. Robbo

    Robbo Steve Carr

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    Why don't they? We had VAR in our fourth round tie against Rochdale 14 months ago; why not now? Is VAR reserved for certain teams and games? Are they perhaps aiming for the same level of inconsistency in which games have VAR as the quality of PL refereeing in general?
     
  18. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Simon Davies

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    I think it can only be used at grounds that have the technical capacity to support it eg sufficent camera coverage, comms capability, large screens to inform those in the ground when VAR is being used etc. In practice that is mainly going to be PL clubs and some Championship ones.
    I don’t know how it will work for promoted teams - will they get any help with the costs of making their grounds VAR- ready for next season (if they are not already so)?

    Edit - just seen this discussed in the FA Cup thread. PL teams only it seems?
     
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  19. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL John Lacy

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    jaysea67 Espen Baardsen

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    IMO, this is the sort of blatant mistake that VAR should be used to correct. From looking at one replay it's clear to everyone, even the most biased supporters of the team affected, that the decision was wrong. These types of errors are thankfully infrequent. My fear is that in the PL next season VAR will be used to scrutinise marginal incidents in a time consuming manner and result in final decisions that are still widely disputed.
     
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