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The Art of VAR

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Gutter Boy, 28 Feb 2018.

  1. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Justin Edinburgh

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    I don't watch much NFL but 17 mins, is that correct? Does seem like it.
    One lesson we really could take from them is the play clock, time wasting is a much bigger and more common problem than dodgy offsides or pens.
     
  2. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    Problem with the stop clock is it doesn't address the issue of breaking up the flow / momentum by time wasting which is larger issue than the wasted time imo, and a stop clock could make this larger issue as it will normalize it (no big deal the clock is stopped). There is a load of unforeseen circumstances with changing the rules.
     
  3. bjholmem

    bjholmem Nicola Berti

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    VAR worked well in the World Cup because the World Cup had very good referees. Note the absence of English referees in Russia last summer. VAR could be a good thing, but bad refs will make bad decisions no matter how much technology you equip them with.

    There is no good reason why the referee should be in charge of timekeeping, just put someone with a stopwatch somewhere. Make football a one hour game that takes one hour forty five minutes to play including a half time break, and I'm on board.
     
  4. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Justin Edinburgh

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    Rather than stop the clock they 20 secs to get the ball back in play or the ball is turned over.
    Think how quick the keeper in particular would play the ball if the goal kick becomes a corner if time he fudges about.
    20 secs after he touches it or the ball touches the pitch.
     
  5. galeforce

    galeforce Garth Crooks

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    how about, the ball has a motion sensor linked to a 60 minute timer, if it's moving the timer runs, when not it stops, when it reaches 0 it explodes
     
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  6. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    We should use the ball boy from Watford!! - as with most things the best solution is probably enforce the rules, give a yellow to the keeper early and it stops.
     
  7. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Nick Barmby

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    "30 seconds left, give it to Sissoko!"
    "Row Z please Moose"
     
  8. galeforce

    galeforce Garth Crooks

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    opposition dugout please
     
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  9. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    In the goal please Moose .... Row z it is
     
  10. bjholmem

    bjholmem Nicola Berti

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    Any rule that requires additional timing is useless. The refs can't time the six seconds the goalkeeper is allowed to handle the ball, how on earth should they be able to count twenty seconds on every throw in?
     
  11. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Justin Edinburgh

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    As I said in my original post, a play clock.
    If they can come with goal line tec to mms a clock can't be that difficult.
     
  12. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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  13. galeforce

    galeforce Garth Crooks

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    That’s brilliant
     
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  14. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    bad Var weekend in Spain & Italy with Real keeping a penalty that's a stone wall dive and the more watching tv than playing (slight exaggeration) and a dodgy handball penalty not overturned in the Fioretina game (football weekly Guardian has the details).
     
  15. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Nick Barmby

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    lol
     
  16. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    given


    Given (101 minute due to VAR delays)

     
  17. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Justin Edinburgh

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    Both look like pens.to me.
     
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    Grays_1890 Jonathan Woodgate

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    FIrst one no way, second yes
     
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    Grays_1890 Jonathan Woodgate

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    Var ohhhhh yahhh
    What is it good for
    Absolutely nothing
     
  20. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    look in real time (second one) and it isn't, refs are meant to base decisions on real time (took 5 minutes to make the decision) - most outlets I have seen / listened to say no handball. A goal scored in 17 seconds and one in 101 minutes in that game.
     
  21. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    the RM one looks like a penalty?
     

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