Baleforce
Ron Henry
Not watching, what happened?
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Not watching, what happened?
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
The Leicester lad drills it hard at the worlds full back ms arm which is by his side but ever so slightly upwards like he doing a low camp wave
The ref gives nothing
Var tel him to watch it again
Joke IMO
At full speed he is moving his hands away and more so at slo Lo
Baleforce
Ron Henry
under the old rules, that is not a penalty, no calculated or considered act, so no intent, only a corrupt or incompetent ref gives it
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Yep exactly
Baleforce
Ron Henry
so to expand on my earlier point, the actual handballs allowed to be let go, where no advantage was seen, are just as much of a problem
I apologise for resorting to hypotheticals for but obvious reasons I can't play tape
right, you and me are opposing midfielders going after a bouncing ball in the centre circle, you look like you might get there first so I intentionally give it a sly flick with my elbow to move it into my path, I then play a terrible ball forward that goes out for a throw in near your box, the ref thought he saw a handball, wasn't sure, and as I gained no advantage he's happy for play to resume with a throw, no harm done right?
but with VAR, it gets called back, they saw my cheating, you get a FK, you immediately play a much better ball forward, intersecting my slow CB's (Toby and Eric) and your forward scores
that's why every single incident should be officiated in isolation, in full compliance with the laws, because not all of the advantages can be seen, thats the only way to get consistency
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
But your saying you flick the arm out with intent
I’m not arguing there that’s a free kick
More that if no intent is obvious we play on
Var by the way doesn’t interject in decisions like you describe as there not goal scoring or goal “creating ones” (as in the infringement)
Baleforce
Ron Henry
VAR should be looking at everything (I know that’s not the case yet).
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Maybe
Or it should be used for certain calls that are unarguable
Like offside and ball out of play
Baleforce
Ron Henry
My point speaks more to the importance of consistent officiating, there shouldn’t be common sense or evening things up, there should only be objective decisions, if the laws don’t allow for that, they need clarifying.
Seeing as the referees can't know intent, only guess, it makes more sense to have an absolute rule.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
But today’s hand ball was drilled at him from 2 yards. That’s never a pen IMO
There should be a better rule but guessing intent isn't it.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
I agree
But a player smacking it at the opposition player and then appealing is the same as diving m my book
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
I miss those times when an appeal was turned down for the opposition and we’d shout handball for a minute or so every time we touched the ball.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Paul Walsh
Yeah but only certain crowds matter.
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
Only the 4 woeful VAR calls this weekend
Bamford/City Pen/ Leicester Pen/ Villa goal
Bamford/City Pen/ Leicester Pen/ Villa goal
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
TBF the villa goal he was in front of line of sight of the keeper
And Bamford was offside in the photo they used
Both were great strikes though
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
If Bamford was in any way offside based on the current rules of the game then it’s a complete joke. The rules would not have had him offside (or even close to it) before VAR, so that still comes under the VAR fudge up umbrella for me.