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Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by diego_maradona, 1 Sep 2013.

  1. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Jimmy McCormick

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    SteveAWOL Jimmy McCormick

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  3. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Steve Sedgley

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    hopefully these have lasted in sequence

    a great piece in the pressing we “attempted” vs it’s coordination

    looks like Kane was the weak link and Holdberg was everywhere but very uncoordinated in his efforts. Maybe with Kane that’s where his lack of pre season hurts and with Holdberg they talk a lot on the article about the change of team style affecting his game


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    fernadez Sebastien Bassong

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    Think a few of us have noted that Kane's days as an all action CF are behind him, no break for how many years + injuries + immediately rushed back for 90 mins unnecessarily.

    Whatever happens going forward he's going to need someone playing near him to be his legs.
     
  5. milo

    milo Mel Hopkins Staff Member

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    I don't think that's true. He just typically needs a run of games to get fully up to speed. He put in some excellent, all action performances after the restart.

    I think that he does need cover and managing through busy schedules. I do worry that his contract is so heavily incentivised that he will be reluctant to accept missing games.
     
  6. Bullet

    Bullet Paul Walsh

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    Thanks BedfordSpurs, interesting that our "220 pressures" was the most of the weekend. I guess 90% of them were entirely uncoordinated i.e. 3 people press, 7 people don't. I.e. pointless pressing that is easy to evade.
     
  7. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Steve Sedgley

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    Yeah that’s exactly what the article says
    Basically we were an unfocused mess
    Or it’s lazy press as per Jose’s talk
    And Kane who used to be key to the press from the front didn’t do it at all
    Also Holdberg was everywhere but arguably was effective because he was busy if that makes sense
     
  8. parklane1

    parklane1 Les Howe

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    My thoughts as well and i said elsewhere that finding a ( good) striker to come here is not going to be easy, those who are very good will not be willing to sit on the bench most games and i really can not see Kane being that willing to sit out games very often. I may be wrong on that but i really think he will want to play every game.
     
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    P.D. Mitchell Thomas

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    I do think Mourinho is more likely than Poch to play the backup as well, when we had Llorente he'd never ever start him in the league. Kane every single time - even when we were 3 or 4 goals up he wouldn't sub him off on 70 minutes but would let him carry on running. I definitely think that was a big mistake in how he managed the players and Kane in particular.

    Good screenshots those, quite rare for a Mourinho team to be disorganised. Even at UTD they were quite disciplined and had a decent defensive record.
     
  10. milo

    milo Mel Hopkins Staff Member

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    I am sure that he would want to play every game anyway because he is chasing records but I wonder whether we ought to offer him a new contract, with a higher basic wage, to encourage him to rest occasionally. In the long term it could help him get another couple of years out of his career.
     
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    AdamB Les Medley

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    Also needs to sit out of some of the nonsensical international games too
     
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  12. parklane1

    parklane1 Les Howe

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    I am not sure offering him a new contract will make much difference to be honest ( i could be wrong though) he will be 28 by the time next season comes around and with all the injurys he has had he may only have a few years left at the top level, he will want to win a few things and staying here another couple of years may put the block on him doing that.

    I know i have said it before but top players ( i think we can all agree he is one) wants to end his playing days with as many medals as he can, and i love Spurs but i honestly can not see him doing that here. :( And i can honestly say i would not blame him for wanting that, no more then i could hold it against Berby, Modric, Bale.
     
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    parklane1 Les Howe

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    I do agree, but again i can not see Kane agreeing to do just that.
     
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    milo Mel Hopkins Staff Member

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    I think that maybe the case and his comments on Eriksen leaving on All or Nothing made me think that he might be thinking like that.

    The flip side is, who would be interested and could afford our asking price? If there isn't a buyer, he might focus on beating Greaves record and maybe pick up a cup with us along the way.
     
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    MKSpur Simon Davies

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    Good point, we really need him to be realistic about how much he can play and it would be really
    frustrating if we did start to use him less only to see him play 180 minutes in friendly games that England could win with any of the other options we have up too. It’s a difficult balance too as if playing all the time is the be all and end all for him it is probably the only thing we can offer him that a move to a club with more chance of big trophies won’t.
     
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    parklane1 Les Howe

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    He will cost a fortune to buy i agree, but we all know/have seen over several years that there are clubs around in Europe and here that they always find a way of false accounting and will spend what ever it costs.

    Do not get me wrong i hope he ends his days here but i really can not see it, unless we start winning a lot of things over the next year or two ( we live in hope).
     
  17. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Steve Sedgley

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    Only team in Europe who could afford him are city
     
  18. StephenH

    StephenH Chris Jones

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    Real?
     
  19. parklane1

    parklane1 Les Howe

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    To be honest i am not sure you are right about that, but who knows.
     
  20. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Steve Sedgley

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    United are skint. They borrowed money like we did and they can’t afford sancho
    That’s it for the U.K.
    And the in Europe it’s PSG which no player would sign for with a ambition as their a one horse club
     

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