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Terry Dyson
I would argue that footballers are essential for mental health reasons right now.
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Spurs & Covid
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I would argue that footballers are essential for mental health reasons right now.
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
This completely.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Hopefully someone can explain to our partying players that precise sentiment. Football means a lot in the best of times, and this is NOT the best of times.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
If you are a football fan of course
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Well we can debate whether football should be played during a pandemic and I’m not saying there aren’t problems with sport being permitted. You can make a compelling case for both sides. Ultimately I think it has been great for morale. Yes there have been some problems for sure with outbreaks of the virus sporadically across the football leagues but it’s been a life saver (figuratively speaking of course) as it gives you something to look forward to once or twice a week even if we aren’t great to watch these days
For better or worse, the government has sanctioned the return of sport. Meeting up with people not in your bubble in other people’s households is against the rules whether we like it or not. From my personal perspective, my partner lives in the midlands (I am in hertfordshire) so we had to sacrifice seeing each other from March-June as hard as that was because we wanted to adhere to the rules and not spread the virus. My personal situation aside, people all over the country are making sacrifices, not seeing loved ones etc. I don’t want to sound preachy as I’m sure most of us have bent/broken the rules during the pandemic even if it was negligible. Another anecdote from me; I was walking my dog once a day and also going for a run at the height of the pandemic so I was leaving the house twice a day sometimes. Technically not in the spirit of the rules but I was going out on my own, not meeting up with anyone, crossing the road to avoid people when it was possible and safe. To me that’s a bit different from having a mass gathering of people indoors where the virus is more likely to spread.
I look in from the outside and assess their risk as footballers week in week out and see it as just as dangerous as the gathering, so I cant praise the game continuing and call the other dangerous or careless because you can make a huge argument for why the continuation of football is careless (if you take our own bias out of it as fans). Personally I am ok with both, I see the risk footballers are taking for my entertainment so I am not going to then act in shock that they got together for NYE and not when they were kissing and hugging for indoor cricket sessions
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I left mine at home, but just assume I'm waving it.
Robspur12
John Lacy
Aagh I am sick of celebrities and sports people having their fun and then apologising afterwards. It's like they do not believe rules apply to them. The sacrifices being made are not just for lives, they are for people's livelihoods and for our kids to be able to return safely to school. Fudging idiots.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Seeing the footage of Mitrovic and Milivojevic adds to the sheer stupidity of footballers
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
The rules don't apply, they have a privilege to play football whilst we are all locked in tier 4, why would their actions be any more dangerous than the game itself taking place? In reality their actions were no more dangerous than Spurs playing Leeds today or England going abroad for needless friendlies, but that's OK because its on our terms
Mikey10
Pat van den Hauwe
This has finished me with Lamela. He’s brainless.
I agree. They should never apologise for something they'd do again in a heartbeat if they thought they could get away with it.
Far better they just admit they think the rules are pointless, pay the fine and get on with it.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
With all due respect mate that is not really the issue here. Rightly or wrongly, football and sports have been given the green light to resume and continue during the pandemic. As long as the clubs individually and collectively follow the rules and the league as a whole do the same then there’s no problem barring a major outbreak. Mixing with others from outside your household is not allowed. Whether you agree with the rules or not or think football being played at this time is dangerous, they are the rules and anyone who breaks them should be penalised to the maximum amount. As others have said, it’s not just about safety, it’s also about schools and businesses not being allowed to return to business as usual partly because too many fudgewits are ignoring the rules that have been put in place. We’re in the middle of a difficult and vital winter period and incidents like this do nothing to help.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
@Grays_1890
You have made some good points here, I’m now not sure where I stand on this, I was disappointed in them when I saw the story, but your argument is completely logical.
You have made some good points here, I’m now not sure where I stand on this, I was disappointed in them when I saw the story, but your argument is completely logical.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
If your not, but you're close to one it also helps!
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
I just feel Its better to keep my reaction in proportion to the crime considering the risk I expect them and their families to take for my entertainment.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Yeah, the photo was of a group already mixing, at work and at home.
I assume our testing programme includes testing of friends and family who live with our players, but maybe not? The club are making a mistake if that’s not the case.
And what about Sergio and Lo Celso? They are equally brainless
Robspur12
John Lacy
Firstly it’s illegal to mix households outside of work. When they are playing football they are in work. That’s a crucial difference. Secondly when they are playing football their wives aren’t playing too and they aren’t being tested either so could be carrying the virus asymptomatically. This disease spreads through contact. The greater the number of contacts the more chance of its spread. Therefore the “party” increases the transmission risk.
This is where simplistic rules like the ones we have don't work.
My parents can look after my children twice a week but I can't spend time with them (according to the rules).
My kids can spend all day in a classroom with their friends but we can't spend time with their parents.
I can sit in a boardroom all day with someone but our families can't socialise.
If those players are already in a bubble with those family members and are spending a few days a week in training together, there's little to no point in keeping their families apart.
Now if someone's going to make the "Every rule is sacred" argument and then live their lives to that standard, good for you. I, personally, don't think that kind of attitude is in any way compatible with modern life. But the chances are we all pick and choose the rules we abide by and that all comes from a judgement call on risk. The additional risk of those families meeting when they're already mixing through the players is very low.