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Ronaldo

Spursalot said:
But would they match Real, Barca, City, Psg wages?
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Can't see him going to Emirates Marketing Project. I know footballers love money, but he's got enough surely. This maybe naive, but I reckon he would go back to United for less money than the cash rich clubs like PSG and Emirates Marketing Project would offer.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Anyone think that United would offer £60m plus Rooney?
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Not a chance in my opinion.

He's a bit older no, although probably a bit better he doesn't have as many years left as when he went to Real so I don't think his value has increased since that £80m transfer and Rooney is worth a lot more than £20m.
 
braineclipse said:
Not a chance in my opinion.

He's a bit older no, although probably a bit better he doesn't have as many years left as when he went to Real so I don't think his value has increased since that £80m transfer and Rooney is worth a lot more than £20m.
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mate he's scored 150 goals in 3 years, he's a better player than left Manure by far.

If fudging Hulk is worth 50M, then Ronaldo is easily 100M
 
Jurgen the German said:
Can't see him going to Emirates Marketing Project. I know footballers love money, but he's got enough surely. This maybe naive, but I reckon he would go back to United for less money than the cash rich clubs like PSG and Emirates Marketing Project would offer.
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I think he actually needs a smaller club (he'd be welcome), he wants to be #1, that's going to be tough in any of those "buy a brand name" clubs
 
Raziel said:
I think he actually needs a smaller club (he'd be welcome), he wants to be #1, that's going to be tough in any of those "buy a brand name" clubs
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Come on, he'd be the biggest player no matter where, just like he is at Real. The problem is that he want's to be the best, but that is very difficult as long as this Messi guy is still around (and now also Iniesta).
But sure, I'd take him if he wants to come :D
 
What do you do when you get to top and you have nowhere to go? whine like a bitch.
Can't see him coming back to the Prem. Although when he was here and had that incredible season for utd, the prem was probably the best league in the world at that time.
we complain because we cant sign mouthinho but look at some of the money being spent by random clubs. zenit, psg, city. its crazy. football is headed to a strange place i feel. probably a super league at some point
 
Raziel said:
mate he's scored 150 goals in 3 years, he's a better player than left Manure by far.

If fudging Hulk is worth 50M, then Ronaldo is easily 100M
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I agree, better (like I already said), but I won't agree to "by far". He scored a lot for United as well, I think the Spanish league is a bit more polarized than the PL so he plays against weaker teams and for a better team, unlike United Real are set up around Ronaldo too. I would guess he's getting more shots away for them than for United, that's just a guess though.

And he's 3 years older, doesn't sound like much to be 27 and playing football, but the difference in sell-on value 3-4 years down the line is substantial, as is the number of years he'll have left in him at his highest level. Those kinds of things compensates for him being a bit better now.

Yes, Hulk went for 50m, but not to United though and that's what we're talking about. Not saying that some club with money to burn won't pay over £80m for him.
 
spursworm said:
What do you do when you get to top and you have nowhere to go? whine like a bitch.
Can't see him coming back to the Prem. Although when he was here and had that incredible season for utd, the prem was probably the best league in the world at that time.
we complain because we cant sign mouthinho but look at some of the money being spent by random clubs. zenit, psg, city. its crazy. football is headed to a strange place i feel. probably a super league at some point
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La Liga became the best league in the world not long after he left United IMO, and it still is today.

He is definitely a better player now (amazing as that sounds) than he was at United. They'd be crazy to not go back in for him if the rumours are true that he wants out of Madrid.
 
Ronaldo, Berbatov, Tevez, Rooney, who remembers how scary that was, we got that in full flow at Old Trafford when we were 2-0 up!!
 
Real face Ronaldo conundrum

Real Madrid's 3-0 home win over Granada in La Liga on Sunday night seemed about as routine as could be. Madrid had not played particularly well, and Cristiano Ronaldo had not looked particularly delighted after scoring two of Real's goals, but neither of those two things were particularly novel.

Even before the final whistle went, most observers had already turned their focus to Barcelona's home game against Valencia, when reports started to emerge from the Bernabeu mixed zone that a proper big story was breaking: Ronaldo was not happy, and wanted everyone to know.

"I am sad, and the people at the club know it, that is why I did not celebrate the goals," he haltingly but clearly told the assembled reporters about half an hour after the game. "There are professional issues. I cannot say any more. We will see what happens."

The immediate response from those present was that Ronaldo was upset that Barcelona's Andres Iniesta had won the UEFA Best Player in Europe Award last Friday, leaving the Portuguese standing trophyless on the podium as Iniesta received all the applause, but the player himself denied that this was a problem.

"If I won I would not have been surprised, if I lost I would not have been surprised," he said. "I am fine about that. Iniesta won, and he deserved it."

This left people wondering what else might be up, and checking Twitter or turning on the radio and TV to find out. Spanish radio host Jose Ramon de la Morena broke the story soon afterwards that Ronaldo had met with Real Madrid president Florentino Perez and the club's director general Jose Angel Sanchez on Saturday, and told them he wanted to quit the Spanish giants.

"He went into Perez office and told the Madrid president and Jose Angel Sanchez that he wanted to leave Real Madrid," de la Morena revealed. "He said he did not feel loved within the squad, and did not feel supported by the rest of his team-mates. [Perez and Sanchez] were left like stone, because at this point, already September, you cannot do this kind of thing."

This opened up the possibility that Ronaldo had received a huge offer from another club, perhaps Emirates Marketing Project or, with the French and Russian transfer windows still open, big spending Paris St Germain or Anzhi Makhachkala. According to de la Morena this was not the case, it was more that Ronaldo had fallen out with previous friends in the Madrid dressing room.

"[Perez] rang Jorge Mendes, Ronaldo's agent, and asked them if he had received a huge offer or something like that, and Mendes said no, that he had not received anything, that it was a personal matter for Ronaldo," said the radio host, whose late night show on Cadena Ser often breaks important and well sourced stories, and who has spoken before of strains between Spanish and Portuguese factions in the Madrid dressing-room.

"Ronaldo told them that he was not happy in the team, that he was distanced from nearly everyone and especially from Marcelo. They do not talk since Marcelo said that Casillas could be a perfect Ballon D'Or winner. Cristiano was very affected, as previously Marcelo, Pepe, [Fabio] Coentrao and Cristiano were a very close group, eating together at training. Today, when Cristiano scored his first goal, Marcelo went and hugged [Jose] Callejon. They do not have the same relationship as before."

The focus soon switched to Spanish TV, and the tabloid-style discussion show Punta Pelota, which usually features partisan guests taking very strong pro or anti Real Madrid or Barcelona positions and arguing noisily and at length. Regular pundit Siro Lopez, who last year was very quick with the story that Jose Mourinho was considering leaving Madrid and returning to the Premier League, had the most startling revelation.

"(Ronaldo) has a problem with his state of mind, because he does not feel loved, " Lopez said. "After the game he spent 20 minutes crying."

Ronaldo had been substituted with just over an hour gone after receiving a heavy challenge from Granada defender Borja Gomez. He had then sat on the sideline watching the game with an ice-pack on his leg for 10 minutes, before leaving the bench and disappearing down the tunnel, but there was no confirmation beyond Lopez's word that he had been especially distressed.

Lopez's colleague on Punta Pelota, 'Mad Madridista' Tomas Roncero of AS, blamed one of Ronaldo's colleagues for club and country for the problems.

"Coentrao is the person responsible as he is a bad influence on CR7," reckoned Roncero. "He (Coentrao) puts lots of ideas in the head of our superstar because he is very close to him."

Coentrao has never been a popular figure in Madrid. When he arrived for €30 million in the summer of 2011 from Benfica, many observers thought the fee was too high and noted that the Portuguese international shared an agent (Mendes) with both Ronaldo and Madrid coach Jose Mourinho. Most Spanish pundits feel that Marcelo is a better left-back and complain when Coentrao is preferred by Mourinho for clasicos against Barcelona and big Champions League games.

These pundits conveniently forget that Marcelo, while excellent going forward, had regularly been found out defensively - especially against Barcelona - so Mourinho's decision makes objective sense. The feeling is that Coentrao has been used as a 'whipping boy' by those in the Madrid media who would like to criticise Mourinho and Mendes, but do not want to do so directly.

Another complication is that Coentrao was banned for four games last week for insulting the referee during Madrid's loss at Getafe last Sunday, a much stiffer ban than other players have received for similar offences in previous seasons. Although this decision was made by Spain's competition committee, and therefore nothing to do with Madrid the club, it could have added to a feeling of persecution. Again, this was only speculation, but given Ronaldo's refusal to go into any details on the reasons for his unhappiness, there was a vacuum to be filled.

On radio show El Larguero, AS editor Alfredo Relano gave what seemed a more balanced view of what might be going on in Cristiano's mind.

"He wants more money," said Relano. "A while ago he was talking about a contract for life. The price of a superstar has gone up after all the goals he has scored and after all Madrid have won."

This made more sense, especially considering the tactics used by Mourinho last February, when photographs of his supposedly 'secret' house-hunting visit to London appeared in the Spanish, English and global media. The coach further fuelled speculation that he might leave Madrid by keeping quiet on the issue. The end result was a new improved contract being agreed in May, which pays a reported £10 million-a-year.

Ronaldo is on similar money himself at the moment, and last Spring he was widely understood to be discussing an extension to his current deal, which ends in 2015. At that point, Emirates Marketing Project were reportedly willing to offer to double his current wages, and the situation is complicated by the ending of Spain's 'Beckham Law' which means players will now have to pay significantly higher income tax rates than previously.

Monday morning's Spanish football papers (including both Madrid leaning AS and Marca) are reporting that the meeting with Perez on Saturday did take place, and that the player did say he wanted to leave, but there is no consensus on his motives for going public on his unhappiness and the next move from the player or the club.

In the short-term Ronaldo is leaving the Spanish capital, as Portugal begin their Brazil 2014 qualifying campaign away to Luxembourg on Friday night, then host Azerbaijan in Braga on Tuesday. The Portuguese captain, who famously did not get a chance to take a penalty as his side lost to Spain in the shoot-out which decided their Euro 2012 semi-final last June, said he was keen to help his country.

"I am not well, but I am going to go with Portugal, to see if I can recover in a few days because I want to play these two very important games for us," he said. "We need to win to qualify."

Ronaldo's absence from Madrid for a week is unlikely to stop the Spanish rumour mill from churning out new stories of various levels of believability. Which presumably Ronaldo, and his representatives, were well aware of when he stopped to talk to reporters at Bernabeu Sunday night. This one looks set to run and run.


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature/_/id/1150207/real-madrid-face-cristiano-ronaldo-conundrum
 
spursworm said:
What do you do when you get to top and you have nowhere to go? whine like a bitch.
Can't see him coming back to the Prem. Although when he was here and had that incredible season for utd, the prem was probably the best league in the world at that time.
we complain because we cant sign mouthinho but look at some of the money being spent by random clubs. zenit, psg, city. its crazy. football is headed to a strange place i feel. probably a super league at some point
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I believe you are right about this. It seems inevitable to me that it will happen at some point, and I for one won't be sorry when it happens. It will be the beginning of the end for some of those clubs in terms of dwindling fan base, at least locally. Sport has to be competitive to be interesting and if football keeps going down the road it has started on then fans will literally turn off.


Back on topic I saw this...sorry if already posted.

Real Madrid and Portugal forward Cristiano Ronaldo on Twitter: "That I am feeling sad and have expressed this sadness has created a huge stir. I am accused of wanting more money, but one day it will be shown that this is not the case. At this point, I just want to guarantee to the Real Madrid fans that my motivation, dedication, commitment and desire to win all competitions will not be affected. I have too much respect for myself and for Real Madrid to ever give less to the club than all I am capable of. Abrazos to all madridistas."
 
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Jordinho said:
They already do with Rooney and RVP. Ronaldo might just be upset because everyone else has been getting payrises this summer or last.
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I agree. This is exactly the same stunt that Rooney pulled at Man Utd to get a pay rise.
 
braineclipse said:
He's a bit older no, although probably a bit better he doesn't have as many years left as when he went to Real so I don't think his value has increased since that £80m transfer and Rooney is worth a lot more than £20m.
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I think that Rooney is spent and that Ferguson would be quite happy to offer him to Real in part exchange for Ronaldo, the only problem being that United do not have the cash to complete the deal.
 
Funny how a lot of footballers claim it's not about the money and the truth will come out later, but it never does.
 
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