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Project Big Picture

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Jordinho, 11 Oct 2020.

  1. Jordinho

    Jordinho Taffy O'Callaghan Staff Member

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    The proposals include:
    • £250 million immediately to the EFL to compensate its clubs for lost matchday revenue, deducted from future television revenue earnings and financed by a loan taken out by the Premier League
    • Special status for the nine longest serving clubs – and the vote of only six of those “long-term shareholders” required to make major changes, including amending rules and regulations, agreeing contracts, removal of the chief executive, and a wide-ranging veto including on club ownership
    • Premier League to go to 18 clubs from 20
    • £100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women’s game, the grassroots
    • 8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and “good causes” including the FA
    • From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs
    • Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat
    • New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league
    • The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield
    • 24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90
    • A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA
    • Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship’s third, fourth and fifth placed teams.
    • Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts
    • A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity
    • Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament
    • Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England
     
  2. Jordinho

    Jordinho Taffy O'Callaghan Staff Member

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    Some good ideas, though not necessarily for the right reasons, and some not so good ones.
     
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    milo Paul Miller Staff Member

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    Never let a good crisis go to waste
     
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    milo Paul Miller Staff Member

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    jts1882 Vedran Corluka

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    Man Utd and Liverpool driving 'Project Big Picture' - football’s biggest shake-up in a generation
    18-team Premier League, increased EFL funding and axing of League Cup among raft of proposals in 'Revitalisation' document seen by Telegraph

    Some pluses and minuses. I favour an 18 club PL, but not at the expense of even more European games and pre-season games. The 25% share of revenues to the EFL and stadium fund seem good changes for the game as a whole. I'm less sure of the idea of "long-term shareholders". Weighted voting depending on number of years in the PL would have some merit, but it shouldn't be a closed shop.
     
  6. billyiddo

    billyiddo George Hunt Staff Member

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    Not sure how the vetoe of new owners would work however if it stops more Chelsea and Man Cities then i am all for it
     
  7. MKSpur

    MKSpur Jimmy Neighbour

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    Don’t like the sound of this, especially if there is anything given west ham exemption from relegation!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54499998

    Liverpool and Manchester United are leading radical proposals for the reform of English football.

    The plans would see the Premier League hand over the £250m bailout required by the Football League to stave off a financial catastrophe among its 72 clubs.

    Under the proposals, the Premier League would be reduced to 18 teams, the EFL Cup in its present form would be abolished and the Community Shield scrapped.

    In addition, the top flight's voting system - where a 14-club majority is required to pass any proposals - would be changed.

    It is thought English Football League (EFL) chairman Rick Parry is in favour of the plan, first reported by the Daily Telegraph.

    It is understood Liverpool's owners, the Fenway Sports Group, came forward with the initial plan, which has been worked on by United co-chairman Joel Glazer. It is anticipated it will receive the backing of Arsenal, Chelsea, Emirates Marketing Project and Tottenham Hotspur - the other members of England's 'big six'.

    The idea is to address long-standing EFL concerns about the huge gap in funding between its divisions and the Premier League by handing over 25% of the annual income, though the current parachute payment system would be scrapped.

    There would be a £250m up-front payment to address the existing crisis created by the coronavirus pandemic. In addition, the Football Association would receive what is being described as a £100m "gift".

    Manchester United are among the clubs driving the change
    No date has been set for the proposed new-style league to be in operation but sources have suggested 2022-23 is not out of the question.

    In order to get down from 20 to 18, it is anticipated four clubs would be relegated directly, with two promoted from the Championship. In addition, there would be play-offs involving the team to finish 16th in the Premier League and those in third, fourth and fifth in the second tier.

    It is also planned that, as well as the 'big six', ever-present league member Everton, West Ham United and Southampton - ninth and 11th respectively in the list of clubs who have featured in the most Premier League seasons - would be granted special status.

    If six of those nine clubs vote in favour of a proposal, it would be enough to get it passed.

    There is no mention of Aston Villa and Newcastle United, both of whom have featured in more Premier League campaigns than Emirates Marketing Project.
     
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    LutonSpurs Eric Dear

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    What is the likelihood of this happening?
     
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    milo Paul Miller Staff Member

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    The poorer clubs will probably need the money, so if it is ever going to happen, it's now. Rick Parry (ex-Liverpool chairman) is chair of the Football League and is supporting it. I would imagine that the most resistance will come from the other 12 PL clubs.
     
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    LemonadeMoney Jimmy McCormick

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    So basically the US owned clubs trying to work towards the NFL model.
     
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    billyiddo George Hunt Staff Member

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    What is the NFL model?
     
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    milo Paul Miller Staff Member

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    The summer PL tournament will be another attempt at the '39th game'. It'll be held abroad to the highest bidder.
     
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    billyiddo George Hunt Staff Member

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    elyid Clint Dempsey

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    Seems like a £250m bribe to the EFL and a £100m bribe to theFA (plus ongoing sweeteners).
    The result, the top 6 clubs get to dictate how English football is structured and own most of the players.

    A power grab disguised as a revenue share.
     
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    camspur Neil Sullivan

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    A reduction of teams in the league from 92 to 90, well Covid will reduce it below 90 anyway if the lower league clubs don't get a handout.

    To be honest, and it'll upset a lot of people, we do not need 92 professional football clubs and a league bloated to 4 divisions, there isn't a single nation that has this amount of pro clubs.
     
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    Kandi1977 Barry Daines

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    This is just an additional insurance for the top clubs, that will basically prevent any of the top clubs from falling out of the top club category. Makes the powerful clubs even more powerful.
     
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    K.D.D.D.D.Soc John Lacy

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    I agree about the 92 clubs, the current level was set in a time where clubs had local support and could survive, now towns in Lancashire who regularly got good attendances are now filled with United and Liverpool fans and struggle to get supporters.
     
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    Legohamster Chris Perry

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    Some good stuff there along with some rubbish

    I’ve been a fan of an 18 team PL and a whole restructure of the football league in a north/south split in league 1/2
     
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    camspur Neil Sullivan

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    18 team EPL + 18 team EPL2 + regional leagues, similar to how the Bundesliga works.
     
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    billyiddo George Hunt Staff Member

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    What's the benefit of regional leagues at a higher level than conference?
     

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