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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by SpurMeUp, 19 Feb 2019.

  1. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Michael Carrick

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    "It just needs some spark? Some oomph? Some jazz? .. Hmm it's just missing something, I can't quite put my finger on it, but I do have a background in design."
     
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    Rorschach Garth Crooks

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    Rorschach Garth Crooks

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    flaming or spinning?
     
  4. galeforce

    galeforce Ricky Villa

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    smashed to bits by X-Wings
     
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    Rorschach Garth Crooks

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  6. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Dimitar Berbatov

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    Im the same want to sit somewhere warm and just rest for the rest of time.

    I cant change my avatar because @milo has an odd fetish...
     
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    SpurMeUp Ian Walker

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  8. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Stephen Kelly

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    thought it was just me. Clearly @scaramanga has us on the naughty list.
     
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    ShipOfTheseus Alan Hutton

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    Once a mod fudges with your avatar or username, for their own dastardly reasons, there is no redress.
     
  10. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Stephen Kelly

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    Can't recall if this has been bought up but er... how have we fudged testing so bad? I mean, surely it was obvious to increasing tests and capacity months back when numbers were low? Now back to rationing tests. Brilliant.

    Still AT LEAST THEY'LL GET BREXIT DONE. And that's what matters.
     
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    Rorschach Garth Crooks

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    Well obviously the EU tricked the UK into fudging up the testing.
     
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    ShipOfTheseus Alan Hutton

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    Gloomsters and doomsters overused the testing service because they weren't positive enough about Britain's glorious future and our world-class NHS.
     
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    galeforce Ricky Villa

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    we love that apparently, blitz spirit

    its those fudging remainers again, working with the EU, getting tested just because they have symptoms and the govt told us too
     
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    P.D. Jermaine Jenas

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    It does need some perspective that we already carry out I believe the most tests in Europe, there is a lot of tests being carried out but obviously we need more.
     
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    Diamond Lights Stephen Kelly

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    I'm not an expert but the British Medical Journal probably know more than me (PROBABLY LEFTY BASTARDS WHO VOTED REMAIN) basically said it's likely we're not actually testing as much. But you also cannot compare with any country as it's apples and oranges in terms of what's recorded by every different country:

    Jon Deeks, professor of biostatistics at the University of Birmingham, said that though the data were interesting, direct comparison was a problem if it was unclear what was being counted. “Several key countries, like Germany, are working on regional control models and probably don’t have the centralised data collection service,” he noted.

    A feature of the UK data is that they include tests that have been sent out to people at home or in satellite locations but not necessarily completed. The UK also counts serology antibody tests as part of its overall numbers (under pillar 4 of the Department of Health and Social Care’s testing programme3).

    Deeks said that few countries were counting serology tests, which were likely to be inflating the UK’s figures. “Most countries are not using serology tests outside of seroprevalence surveys—which seems a very sensible approach,” he said. “The important question is whether the PCR tests are being done, and whether they are being done in the right people at the right time, and that those people are getting the right medical help, and contact tracing is done.”

    Given the lack of uniformity in data collection, it is not possible to firmly establish the accuracy of the claim that the UK is carrying out more tests than any other European countries.

    But more broadly, Deeks questioned the merit of using the number of tests conducted as a benchmark for assessing how the testing system is performing.

    “I would suggest that the performance metrics they should be looking at is whether people who need PCR testing get a test within 24 hours of need (tick 1), get the results in 24 hours of response (tick 2), together with a conversation with an appropriate healthcare practitioner (tick 3) and contact tracer (tick 4),” he said.
     
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    P.D. Jermaine Jenas

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    You really are a political cliche, Brexit has nothing to do with testing but you're obsessed with mentioning it in every post.

    Well I'm not the British Medical Journal no and I agree with the points you've posted in the article but one measure quite clearly is the headline one of how many tests are being performed a day just as the headline measure of number of deaths is also a good measure - obviously they don't tell the full story but it's enough to see roughly where you are.
     
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    Mikey10 Tim Sherwood

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    The government was in charge of a system which processed around circa 80,000 tests a day on average over the past weeks. It’s nowhere near the numbers they are claiming. Look behind their bluster.
     
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    Diamond Lights Stephen Kelly

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    Yes my comment was a wholly serious one :rolleyes:
     
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    Danishfurniturelover Dimitar Berbatov

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    I have gone right off cher.
     
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    Danishfurniturelover Dimitar Berbatov

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    There performance on covid has been awful. I can allow a pass for being slow out the box, but how did they not realise that kids going back to school would lead to a spike in tests. Surely some of them have school age children, or does nanny deal with all that.
     
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