Players who should never have left.

[Gilzeantoscore]

Middleborough
Everton
Liverpool
Leeds
Forest
Hull.

thanks for that supporting evidence parklane1.

 

[Raziel]

Mousa Dembele should have left at the end of the season (CL final) as opposed to January window. Ridiculous decision by Levy.

Nothing to do with Levy ..

Go read Dembele's interviews after he left Spurs ... it's on Poch, summary

- Dembele felt he could continue playing for Spurs, but his body couldn't handle Poch's training
- He brought it up with Poch (and instead of offering to cut back or customize the training ala what we did with King), Poch simply asked for him to stay longer (apparently Dembele gave us another year)
- Levy simply got some money for a player that felt he was forced to leave by the manager's coaching methods ..

p.s. he could still be here if it wasn't for the idiot training methods that ran most of the squad into the ground

 

[awesome dawson]

Nothing to do with Levy ..

Go read Dembele's interviews after he left Spurs ... it's on Poch, summary

- Dembele felt he could continue playing for Spurs, but his body couldn't handle Poch's training
- He bought it up with Poch (and instead of offering to cut back or customize the training ala what we did with King), Poch simply asked for him to stay longer (apparently Dembele gave us another year)
- Levy simply got some money for a player that felt he was forced to leave by the manager's coaching methods ..

p.s. he could still be here if it wasn't for the idiot training methods that ran most of the squad into the ground

Those training methods at one point had us playing the best football this club has played in decades. Nothing happens at our club without Levy's input. All I'm suggesting is five more months would have put us in better stead for the big games at the end of the CL run. Thirty mins of Dembele is better than an hour of Winks, Dier and Sissoko.

 

[Parklaner81]

Was superb for us and a huge loss

I didn't follow his career after leaving us, but the impression I have is of another sad case of (at least partially) unfulfilled potential.

He genuinely looked like he'd go on to be a great for us at one point.

(edit: we're talking about Barmby, right? )

 

[Parklaner81]

- Dembele felt he could continue playing for Spurs, but his body couldn't handle Poch's training
- He bought it up with Poch (and instead of offering to cut back or customize the training ala what we did with King), Poch simply asked for him to stay longer (apparently Dembele gave us another year)
- Levy simply got some money for a player that felt he was forced to leave by the manager's coaching methods ..

p.s. he could still be here if it wasn't for the idiot training methods that ran most of the squad into the ground

Those training methods at one point had us playing the best football this club has played in decades. Nothing happens at our club without Levy's input. All I'm suggesting is five more months would have put us in better stead for the big games at the end of the CL run. Thirty mins of Dembele is better than an hour of Winks, Dier and Sissoko.

This debate reminds me of the conundrum at the heart of the recent documentary on the England cricket from circa. 2009-2013 ('The Edge'). I'm still not quite sure what the right answer is...

 

[MKSpur]

To be fair if Levy and Poch could have predicted we’d be in the CL final I think they would have loved to have had a fit and able Dembele to play in it. I’m sure a Dembele himself may have overcome his issues with the rigours of the PL on his body, his love if Chinese food and the wage hike to play in a CL final too.

In the January he’d not played for two months and there was the offer of 11m for a player with 6 months left on his deal, it was an understandable decision at the time. What I don’t understand is how Lamela has escaped a similar decision based on his injury record.

 

[SteveAWOL]

Nothing to do with Levy ..

Go read Dembele's interviews after he left Spurs ... it's on Poch, summary

- Dembele felt he could continue playing for Spurs, but his body couldn't handle Poch's training
- He bought it up with Poch (and instead of offering to cut back or customize the training ala what we did with King), Poch simply asked for him to stay longer (apparently Dembele gave us another year)
- Levy simply got some money for a player that felt he was forced to leave by the manager's coaching methods ..

p.s. he could still be here if it wasn't for the idiot training methods that ran most of the squad into the ground

This...

“That is one of the reasons for me to leave Tottenham — not because they are not good but because it’s very intense and they ask for 200 per cent every day. When you have a bit of pain or a bit of injury it is not easy.

“I think if my body was still like I was at 25 I would continue but I felt my body was not the same as before in the Premier League. It was a bit too much and I said after this I am going to do something else, a different experience. Then China came in and, for me, this was perfect.”

It wasn’t perfect for Pochettino, though. Dembélé had knocked on the door of the manager’s office the previous year, in the winter of 2017, and said he was ready to leave. “I told him now maybe I am interested to go to a different team, a different country and he said, ‘OK, but at the moment we need you.’ ” Pochettino asked for six months; Dembélé gave him a year.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1196843022526406657

 

[parklane1]

thanks for that supporting evidence parklane1.

I just thought you were being too lazy to do it yourself.

 

[Grays_1890]

thanks for that supporting evidence parklane1.

Supports the actual question and answer aka shouldn't have left he was class with us and would have, based on form with us, gone on to be a better player and he was better than what we had there after