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Penalties

he_is_you_know said:
Probably between Keane & Sheringham recently, but I'd give it to Sheringham because he always seemed to miss them when playing against us! His first season at United and then for West Ham during the Lasagna game. And there's always Terry Fenwick!

I think Adebayor has scored all of his so far hasn't he? GHod our record was awful for a couple of seasons, I think Defoe had a three in eight record or something like that, which meant the likes of Huddlestone stepping up and missing.

How many penalty shoot-outs have we lost in a row now btw?
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Not sure how many in a row but we haven't won a shoot out since we beat Peterborough in the FA Cup in Jan, 1994 to my recollection.

Since then we have definitely lost to Middlesborough, Liverpool, PSV amongst others on penalties.
 
Yes, that Peterborough one in 1994 seems to be the last win. In addition to those mentioned, we lost to Forest (FA Cup 1996), Singapore Lions (friendly 1995) and Partizan Belgrade (Kappa Cup 2004). We can't even win in the friendlies.
 
Libero said:
Not sure how many in a row but we haven't won a shoot out since we beat Peterborough in the FA Cup in Jan, 1994 to my recollection.

Since then we have definitely lost to Middlesborough, Liverpool, PSV amongst others on penalties.
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Don't forget Manchester United in the 2009 Football League Cup Final.
 
Kenyan Spur said:
THFC6061 aka Statto.

You are a legend.

Just a simple question, do you have a job. If not OK, if you have one, how can you do these analysis .

Anyway may it carry on. I love your input into very OMT

COYS
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Yes, I do have a job but running my footy stats site takes an ever-increasing amount of my time.
 
Spur of the moment said:
Daily Mail has Lineker (36th) ahead of Klinsmann (40th) in its list of Football's Greatest Penalty Kings, but that includes all clubs they played for.
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Lineker was not really a good penalty taker, is he ? He has only scored 8 for us. And it was unforgivable the way he missed the penalty in the 1991 FA Cup Final. I would have hated Lineker forever if we had lost that Final. Fortunately for him, we went on to win that.
 
I have taken this stats from a Spurs website sometime back :

Spurs penalties scored :

Number of penalties scored - Taker
37 Tom Clay
29 Glenn Hoddle
27 Jimmy Greaves
23 Tommy Harmer
21 Ralph Ward
20 Alf Ramsey/Teddy Sheringham
19 Robbie Keane
14 Willie Evans
11 Danny Blanchflower/Keith Osgood
9 Clive Allen
8 Gary Lineker
7 Cliff Jones/Terry Fenwick/Darren Anderton
6 Martin Chivers/Martin Peters/Graham Roberts
5 Sandy Tait/Bobby Steel/Jermain Defoe/Jimmy Dimmock/Peter Taylor/Rafael van der Vaart
4 Arthur Grimsdell/George Hunt/Garry Brooke/Dimitar Berbatov/Roman Pavlyuchenko/Emmanuel Adebayor
3 Martin/Ronnie Dix/Freddie Cox/Johnny Brooks/Dave Mackay/Alan Mullery/Jurgen Klinsmann
2 Tom Morris/Jimmy Banks/Cecil Poynton/Bert Lyons/Bill Whatley/Cyril Knowles/Luka Modric
1 Bill Joyce/Ted Hughes/Joe Walton/Ernie Coquet/Bert Middlemiss/Tom Collins/Fanny Walden/Jack Elkes/
Alec Lindsay/Frank Osborne/Bill Felton/James Fulwood/Les Howe/Johnny Jordan/Arthur Willis/Johnny Gavin/
Les Allen/Bobby Smith/Mike England/Dennis Bond/Alan Brazil/Mark Falco/Nick Barmby/Micky Hazard/Andy Gray/
Ilie Dumitrescu/Chris Armstrong/Clive Wilson/David Ginola/Steffen Iversen/Mido/Darren Bent/Peter Crouch

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Spurs penalties missed :

Date-Opposition-Venue-Reason-Taker-Saved/Missed
31.10.2012 Norwich City (League Cup) Away Foul (Tierney on Walker) Clint Dempsey Saved (Bunn) J. Moss
26.11.2011 West Bromwich Albion (Premier League) Home Foul (Shorey on Lennon) Emmanuel Adebayor Saved (Foster) L. Probert
25.08.2011 Heart of Midlothian (Europa League) Home Foul (McDonald on Kane) Harry Kane Saved (McDonald) A. Kakos
05.02.2011 Bolton Wanderers (Premier League) Home Foul (Ricketts on Lennon) Rafael van der Vaart Missed (after successful penalty had to be re-taken) -
28.11.2010 Liverpool (Premier League) Home Handball (Ngog) Jermain Defoe Missed -
24.11.2010 Werder Bremen (Champions League) Home Foul (Kroos on Modric) Gareth Bale Saved (Wiese) -
13.11.2010 Blackburn Rovers (Premier League) Home Foul (Robinson on Crouch) Roman Pavlyuchenko Missed -
29.09.2010 Twente Enschede (Champions League) Home Foul (Wisgerhof on Crouch) Rafael van der Vaart Saved (Mihaylov) -
23.01.2010 Leeds United (FA Cup) Home Foul (Crowe on Rose) Jermain Defoe Saved (Ankergren) -
06.12.2009 Everton (Premier League) Away Foul (Hibbert on Palacios) Jermain Defoe Saved (Howard) -
27.10.2009 Everton (League Cup) Home Foul (Distin on Keane) Robbie Keane Saved (Howard) -
29.12.2007 Reading (Premier League) Home Foul (Sonko on Keane) Robbie Keane Saved (Hahnemann) K. Stroud
22.12.2007 Arsenal (Premier League) Away Foul (Toure on Berbatov) Robbie Keane Saved (Almunia) R. Styles
25.11.2007 West Ham United (Premier League) Away Foul (Neill on Defoe) Jermain Defoe Saved (Green) M. Riley
13.05.2007 Emirates Marketing Project (Premier League) Home Foul (Dunne on Zokora) Jermain Defoe Saved (Isaksson) S. Bennett
03.12.2005 Sunderland (Premier League) Home Handball (Breen) Robbie Keane Saved (Alnwick) P. Walton
17.09.2005 Aston Villa (Premier League) Away Handball (Bouma) Jermain Defoe Missed S. Bennett
02.01.2001 Saudi Sportswashing Machine (Premier League) Home Darren Anderton - (-) -
16.11.1996 Sunderland (Premier League) Home Teddy Sheringham Hit post -
03.05.1995 Saudi Sportswashing Machine (Premier League) Away Jurgen Klinsmann -
24.08.1994 Everton (Premier League) Home Teddy Sheringham -
02.03.1994 Aston Villa (Premier League) Home Nick Barmby -
02.03.1994 Aston Villa (Premier League) Home Darren Anderton -
27.02.1994 Chelsea (Premier League) Away Andy Gray Saved (-) -
11.04.1984 Hadjuk Split (UEFA Cup) Away Mark Falco Saved (Simovic) -
24.03.1984 Coventry City (First Division) Away Alan Brazil -
12.08.1972 Coventry City (First Division) Home Martin Peters -
15.12.1971 Rapid Bucharest (UEFA Cup) Away Martin Peters Hit post -
02.01.1971 Sheffield Wednesday (FA Cup) Home Alan Mullery Saved (Springett) -
20.12.1969 West Ham United (First Division) Away (foul on Pearce) Jimmy Greaves Saved Leo Callaghan
19.08.1969 Burnley (First Division) Away Jimmy Greaves Saved -
12.11.1966 West Ham United (First Division) Home Jimmy Greaves -
08.02.1958 Emirates Marketing Project (First Division) Home Tommy Harmer Saved -
24.08.1957 Chelsea (First Division) Home Tommy Harmer -
19.01.1957 Aston Villa (First Division) Home Tommy Harmer Hit post -
18.12.1954 Aston Villa (First Division) Home Alf Ramsey Missed -
07.11.1953 Chelsea (First Division) Home Alf Ramsey Saved -
29.08.1953 Middlesbrough (First Division) Home Alf Ramsey Saved -
21.10.1950 Stoke City (First Division) Home Alf Ramsey Saved -
11.01.1936 Southend United (FA Cup) Home Les Howe Saved -
24.02.1926 Burnley (First Division) Home Jimmy Dimmock -
09.04.1912 Manchester United (First Division) Home Bert Middlemiss -

Updated with latest stats.
 
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And our penalty shootout records :

20-Sep-2011 L.C. 3 A Stoke City D 0 - 0 (a.e.t) (Spurs lost 6-7 on pens)
(Defoe=scored,Pavlyuchenko=missed,Townsend=scored,Corluka=scored,Kaboul=scored,Livermore=scored,
Carroll=scored,Luongo=saved)

01-Mar-09 L.C. Cup Final 88,217 W Manchester United D 0 - 0 (a.e.t) (Spurs lost 1-4 on pens)
(O'Hara=saved,Corluka=scored,Bentley=missed)

12-Mar-08 UEFA 3 (2L) 33,000 A PSV Eindhoven W 1 - 0 (a.e.t) Berbatov (Spurs lost 5-6 on pens)
(Berbatov=scored,O'Hara=Scored,Huddlestone=scored,Bent=scored,Jenas=missed,Zokora=scored,
Chimbonda=missed)

01-Dec-04 L.C. Cup 5 36,100 H Liverpool D 1 - 1 (a.e.t) Defoe (Spurs lost 4-3 on pens)
(Brown=missed, Kanoute=missed)

17-Dec-03 L.C. Cup 5 25,307 H Middlesbrough D 1 - 1 (a.e.t) Anderton (Spurs lost 5-4 on pens)

09-Mar-96 F.A. Cup 5® 31,055 H Nottingham Forest D 1 - 1 (a.e.t) Sheringham (Spurs lost 1-3 on Penalties)

26-May-95 Friendly 20,000 A Singapore Lions D 1 - 1 Anderton (Lost 2-4 on penalties)

19-Jan-94 F.A. Cup 3® 24,893 H Peterborough United D 1 - 1 (a.e.t) Barmby (Spurs won 5-4 on Penalties)

27-Apr-93 Fiorucci Cup(Friendly) H Inter Milan D 0 - 0 (Lost 6-5 on penalties)

25-May-84 UEFA Final (2L) 46,205 H Anderlecht D 1 - 1 Roberts (2-2 aggregate)
(Spurs win the UEFA cup 4-3 on penalties)
(Roberts=scored,Falco=scored,Stevens=scored,Archibald=scored,Thomas=saved)

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As you can see, we have only won 2 out of 10 penalty shootouts in our history. We are as shyte as England when it comes to taking penalties !
 
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Blimey...so we only have one player on our books who has ever scored a penalty for the Club.
And only one other who has taken one? (yeah cheers, Clint)

Good job we don't have anyone who goes down too easily then 8-[

Edit: Ah...stats post above edited now, move on...
 
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Spurs7891 said:
I have taken this stats from a Spurs website sometime back :

Spurs penalties scored :

Number of penalties scored - Taker
37 Tom Clay
29 Glenn Hoddle
27 Jimmy Greaves
23 Tommy Harmer
21 Ralph Ward
20 Alf Ramsey/Teddy Sheringham
19 Robbie Keane
14 Willie Evans
11 Danny Blanchflower/Keith Osgood
9 Clive Allen
8 Gary Lineker
7 Cliff Jones/Terry Fenwick/Darren Anderton
6 Martin Chivers/Martin Peters/Graham Roberts

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Where did you get that list?

My records have Clay scoring 37 goals in total, 36 of which were penalties. The exception is a goal listed in a tour game (5-0 against Berne in 1925). Neither Bob Goodwin or Topspurs list this as a penalty, although this might just be due to an incomplete record. I'd also note that that list seems to exclude friendlies, except for Clay.

Edit: And while writing this post my question is answered by Spur of the moment. Talk about a Spur for the moment.
 
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Now can see why Bale didn't take the penalty against Norwich. He had missed his only penalty so far, against Werder Bremen !

Defoe has scored 5 but have missed 6. Adebayor has a better record, scoring 5 and missing 1.

But when Adebayor doesn't play, who is going to be our regular penalty taker ? Surely, we cannot rely on Defoe or Dempsey. Anyone else who is a proven penalty taker ?
 
Huddlestone is missing from that list. Sure he missed a pen a couple of seasons back. Bolton away?
 
Spurs7891 said:
Anyone else who is a proven penalty taker ?
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A striking feature of that penalty list is that two of the top penalty takers were right-backs (Clay, Ramsey).

It doesn't make sense that strikers have first claim to penalties. The qualities that make a good striker - instinct, rapid reaction - are not good qualities for a penalty taker. Someone with a calmer more deliberate approach is more suitable.
 
DaveYid said:
Huddlestone is missing from that list. Sure he missed a pen a couple of seasons back. Bolton away?
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Did he ? When was that ? Can't remember it. IIRC, the only penalty he has taken is against PSV Eindhoven in the penalty shootout in UEFA quarter final in 2008/09.
 
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