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Paul Mitchell

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Gutter Boy, 7 Feb 2018.

  1. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    We've got no idea what role he played in any signing, so it is impossible to assess his record.
     
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    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    The Sissoko signing does stink a bit of someone sleeping on the job though.
     
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    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    I was about to say the same. We may have been tracking some long before he arrived, just like we now could be keeping an eye players he suggested. I don't think it's a one man show anyway.
     
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  4. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    Even if Mitchell thought he had seen some untapped potential there, it still needed to get through Poch, Levy and McDermott.
     
  5. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    I don't think it's co-incidence that our entire scouting top team found employment elsewhere shortly after a summer of blowing nearly £60m on Sissoko, Janssen and Nkoudou
     
  6. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    Sissoko clearly has compromising photos of Poch somewhere.

    Levy is the one that surprises me - I guess it shows how strong his trust in Poch is.
     
  7. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    Mitchell resigned, Mackenzie moved to a more senior job at Derby.
     
  8. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    I don't think that it is worth dwelling on. All clubs make odd signings and we do not know who took what position on signing him or what alternatives were considered.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    I think the HR term is 'managing out'.
     
  10. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    As long as the club understand what went wrong and manage to avoid it in future, I'm not particularly fussed about where the blame lies.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    I think it was clear to everyone that it was a disaster waiting to happen. He'd be terrible at Newcastle for years, but his stock had just risen because there'd been 2 France matches where he looked 'less worse than Pogba'.

    It was a Liverpool signing all the Senegalese players on the back of a world cup run scale mistake
     
  12. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    I'd be very surprised if we signed a player just off the back of a world cup.
     
  13. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    I assume that we wanted to add a more a direct player to the squad and he was thought to be the best available. We had been linked to him all summer, so I do not buy the panic buy argument that we often see. I suspect that we thought we could get more out of him that Newcastle. The real problem was the fee (or at least the publicised fee), if we'd paid £15m for him, few of us would be complaining.
     
  14. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    Wouldn't you be more surprised if we'd signed Sissoko off the back of his Newcastle appearances? I would be.
     
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    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    Still think there was some collusion between Levy and Ashley on this.
     
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    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    Like I said, I suspect that he was the best or only available player to fill an identified gap in the squad and we might have thought that we could get more out of him. Our transfer policy is based around finding rough diamonds and polishing them. They cannot all pay off.
     
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    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    Not being funny I was free and Id just had my wheelchair serviced!:rolleyes:
     
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    galeforce Tony Galvin

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    Clearly Poch didn't want Sissoko as he never gets in the match squad.
     
  19. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    I'd be very concerned if we sent professional scouts to watch Sissoko and they saw anything they could even begin to work with.

    I can imagine the kind of player they were looking for when they went to see him, but he simply has too much inertia and not nearly enough skill to be that kind of player. He may be fast in a straight line once he's going, but he can't turn and takes forever to get started. That's ignoring the very obvious technical flaws in his game. He's far to old for us to change his game or to teach him how to play football.

    Bentaleb is a punt that didn't come off, Janssen is a punt that didn't come off (yet), Sissoko is just very clearly poor judgement. What concerns me is just how obvious a poor choice he was before the purchase.
     
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    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    Sissoko's best ability to date is that of being able to stay injury free. That has been important with all the midfield injuries we've had.
     

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