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OMT - Tottenham vs. West Ham

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Mumorn, 3 Oct 2013.

  1. Stenno

    Stenno Banned

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    Exactly my reaction.
     
  2. Spurs7891

    Spurs7891 Jermaine Jenas

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    Unbelievable ! Disappointed ! Annoyed ! As Hoddle used to say "I don't know where that came from!". It was like watching Spurs when Hoddle was the manager, when we used to get hammered by all the shyte teams. And it has been a long long time since we get hammered by a shyte team like that at home. Never thought this team was capable of getting hammered like that. Thought we would atleast score a consolation goal. In fact I was very confident we will somehow draw 3-3 even when we were losing 0-3. Really disappointed we lost without much fight.

    I like to think it was a fluke win by West Ham. They rode the luck during that 15 min spell in the second half in which they scored the 3 goals. West Ham have to thank their lucky stars because :
    1.the ball gets deflected off the knee of a West Ham player and fell right onto the path of another West Ham player to score
    the first goal.
    2.the ball gets saved by Lloris but deflected onto the West Ham player into goal
    3.the West Ham player runs past the entire defence to score the goal which rarely happens in football
    West Ham had not scored any away goals this season before this match and not scored more than 1 goal away since last season. Both teams didn't look like scoring a goal and this match was seemingly going to be a 0-0 draw until those 15 min madness. I think we were simply fated to lose to West Ham !

    One of the main reason we lost this match was our midfield were poor. We just couldn't create many chances for our attacks.
    We just couldn't unlock the West Ham defence. Was hoping Eriksen would be our key to unlock any ultra defensive teams but he was largely poor in this match. Even Holtby was not much better when he replaced Eriksen. Also, I thought Dembele and Paulinho lost the midfied battle as West Ham as they couldn't help our attacks. Paulinho did well to create one chance for Defoe in the second half but he didn't have much impact.

    Disappointed Defoe didn't take his chance when he gets to start a league match after so long. He should have done better with the one-on-one chance in the second half but you can't blame him as he didn't get much service from midfield apart from that. My 3-year old nephew who proudly calls himself Defoe had promised Defoe will score 3 goals against West Ham. When I asked him why he didn't score any, my nephew's answer was "Where is the ball?". That was probably what Defoe was asking for almost the entire match as he didn't get many chances. Defoe always needs 2 or 3 chances to score a goal, so the midfield should have created more chances for him. Disappointingly Soldado and Lamela couldn't do much when they came on also.

    After doing so well until now, never thought our defence will let in 3 goals at home to West Ham. It looks like we ran out of luck after riding our luck so many times in the previous matches. Really annoyed with our defending for all their 3 goals. Vertonghen was fouled on the run up to their first goal but surely someone should have covered the West Ham player. Walker was at fault for their second goal as he let him outrun him. Don't know what was Dawson and Vertonghen were doing with their amateurish defending which allowed the West Ham players run past them for their third goal.

    I had always wondered how this team will respond when going behind. Disappointingly we didn't respond well against West Ham. It looks like we still need to go a long way before becoming a top team. It is really unacceptable to lose to West Ham at home for the first time in 15 years. Just hope we will show good character to bounce back from this defeat.
     
  3. DHSF

    DHSF Les Ferdinand

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    It is not personnel that's the issue although having no lb is a disgrace. It's the tactics. So ****in one paced, dull and predictable.
     
  4. shaney

    shaney Alan Hutton

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    Think its the curse of Match Of The Day fawning over him after the Norwich game. He has been average in the prem since.
     
  5. onlyme

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    You are entitled to your view that we were the best team for the first hour. Not many here will agree with you, though.
    I disagree -we were the second best team for the whole 90.
    I did not like being called an attention seeker and a troll for saying what my eyes saw.
    But in future I am just gonna ignore people who reply to me in a puerile fashion.
     
  6. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Mumorn's new Avatar is still cracking me up!!!:ross:

    It surely must be the best losing-OMT-starter one created, though I think the Goonersaurus one for Glenroy's 5-2 OMT last November was awesome. Loving it in a sea of Wet Spam woe..
     
  7. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla John Lacy

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    Did you happen to see AVB's quotes today? Basically says exactly what I did, except I think he said we were very good in the 1st half, whereas I said we were only ok but still clearly better. Also not sure if you saw the stats for the 1st half or even the highlights, because, to be honest, none of them back up your point of view.

    Using the last half an hour of a game to try and prove an opinion on the previous hour is pretty poor form.
     
  8. onlyme

    onlyme Banned

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    Whether either one of is right or wrong is neither here nor there.

    The issue is of politeness. I disagree with you (AND AVB) but I do not call you a troll or an attention seeker.
     
  9. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla John Lacy

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    If you make absolute statements that are the complete opposite of what the facts / stats tell us then you should expect to be called out on it.

    Anyway, it was a **** result and a real confidence knock with no way to put it right for 2 weeks, not good.
     
  10. braineclipse

    braineclipse Gary Stevens

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    I think it's generally accepted that Mourinho put Ramires on Eriksen in the second half against Chelsea and pretty effectively nullified him as a threat. West Ham followed suit and close to man-marked him.

    I can feel myself getting repetitive both with my arguments and conclusions here, but for me the key with players like Eriksen (and Holtby) is that we need more players on the same wavelength working together. Yes these players are capable of pulling off the spectacular on their own if given a bit of space and time, but to find that space and time we need other players who can also contribute with quick passing and interplay to open up some of that space to let them be at their best more often.

    Blah blah blah, Lamela over Townsend imo...
     
  11. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    It scares me to say this but the relative players we have all have a decent goal scoring record of at least attempts at goal. Eriksen scores, Siggy scores, Lamella scores, Chadli scores and Townsend can too.... But none of these so far seem to suit our strikers. The player who could work really well in this team is Ade!!! I've said it and I never thought I would but the hold up play he can has and they way he brings others in works with this kind of player. I'm still a long way from convinced by Chadli and I'm not a fan of Siggy but he is one of our better players so far

    For what it's worth I thought it was a freak result and very freaky goals. They never look liked scoring at all but yet again a soft set piece costs us. We had a solid if very unspectacular first half and a decent start to the second when their seemed to be a load more room on the pitch. But when they did press forward around the 52 minute mark we seemed to fall apart.

    Eriksen did worry bone a lot as he seemed to perform as he has renound for doing in Holland e.g doesn't turn up against **** teams. And why did AVB take so long to ale the subs

    Townsend was excellent though and I'm amazed at some of the negativity I've read on this forum towards him. He tore Cole apart last week before being wrongly subbed and he was the only threat we had in this game.
     
  12. onlyme

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    1. You are missing the point.
    2. If you think we were the better side in the 3-0 loss then you are entitled to your opinion.


    Edit: Apologies to others for bumping this thread.
     
    Last edited: 9 Oct 2013
  13. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla John Lacy

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    Wow!
    Point 2, I've pretty much said in every reply we were the better team up till they scored, so for the 1st hour, then we were dog **** and deserved to lose. Which pretty much means that you've shown yourself up to be guilty of your point 1! :)

    But you're adamant that we weren't better in that 1st hour so do show me the stats and talk me through all the chances west ham had IN THAT PERIOD that prove your point, because it's getting a bit tedious arguing with someone who just uses "because I said so" as proof!

    Did you used to post as "Afan" by the way, because you have exactly the same posting styles.
     
  14. Mosquito_Coasting

    Mosquito_Coasting Tim Sherwood

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    I've noticed the afan similarities too.
     

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