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*** OMT: Tottenham Hotspur vs Crystal Palace ***

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by DaveT316, 12 Dec 2020.

  1. Mosquito_Coasting

    Mosquito_Coasting Terry Fenwick

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    I don't think we played too badly, though do wish we would attack more at 1-0 up in games, we haven't been launching many counter attacks when ahead. Reguillon was off it today, touch wasn't even there. Aurier has been great the last month, fair play, didn't think he had it in him.
     
  2. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Paul Robinson

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    Even your optimism can’t go far enough to see Fulham getting anything from The Dippers.
     
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  3. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Vedran Corluka

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    Well that’s a problem for me and we didn’t do that first half. Against the better teams, I can see why that would work but against Palace?

    I’m also not convinced that was the tactic. Jose said in his post match interview that we didn’t keep the ball well enough. Also, when we deliberately did it in the last 3 weeks, we were brilliantly organised at the back and controlled things to an extent. Today we didn’t. We looked a bit ragged second half.
     
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  4. stratnumberone

    stratnumberone David Bentley

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    I thought we handed them all the initiative in the second half. There are games where we can legitimately sit back on a lead and try to hold out but I don’t think today was one of those. We were creating plenty and I believe we would have scored again. When we chased a second goal after conceding we were all over them again. Yes, their keeper played a blunder but he didn’t have to do anything for almost half the game. That’s 2 points needlessly dropped, just like vs Newcastle and West Ham. It’s certainly harsh to talk like that considering our splendid position but these are the margins that win titles.
     
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  5. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vivian Woodward

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    dod you see passive city yesterday?
     
  6. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    Unfortunately we gave away too many silly free kicks.
     
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  7. milo

    milo Jürgen Klinsmann Staff Member

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    He's being asked to play deeper. He's strong defensively and is technically good. It's to allow Ndombele to get further forward but not leave us exposed at the back. Mourinho has used Moura and Lamela in a very similar way.
     
  8. Bishop

    Bishop Gudni Bergsson

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    I agree because there is a passivity when we take a lead whereas before a lead or when we've gone behind we have fire in us. Think about the United game in particular we equalised and gained the lead within 7 minutes of going behind.

    Even today once they equalised we came out of our shell and attacked and created a couple of opportunities which on another day may have gone in. The shame is that we let the passivity take hold and only reacted when it was too late.
     
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  9. iggyfog

    iggyfog Carlo Cudicini

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    Premier league champions win those types of games.
     
  10. Bishop

    Bishop Gudni Bergsson

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    Sissoko is a fundamental problem for a team trying to play possession football, there's no way around that. He just is.
     
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  11. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Pat van den Hauwe

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    Was really disappointing to see Bergwijn totally outpaced on 50/50 throughballs today. Thought he was supposed to be fast?
     
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  12. billyiddo

    billyiddo Willie Hall Staff Member

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    It's jekyl and hyde really as i can appreciate his work off the ball but on it he really isn't offering much at all atm
     
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  13. milo

    milo Jürgen Klinsmann Staff Member

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    Palace are a well organised team with some good players. Their keeper also had his game of the season (which helps).

    This is Diego Torres' description of Mourinho's philosophy:

    1. The game is won by the team who commit fewer errors.

    2. Football favours whoever provokes more errors in the opposition.

    3. Away from home, instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, it’s better to encourage their mistakes.

    4. Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

    5. Whoever renounces possession reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

    6. Whoever has the ball has fear.

    7. Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.
     
  14. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Jimmy Neighbour

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    Bishop Gudni Bergsson

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    Didn't watch their game but I heard it was pretty awful from both teams.
     
  16. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vivian Woodward

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    That’s my logic
    I honestly think we can play both ways of football and we saw that today
    Every possession based first half
    Less so second (although we still had more possession)
    But score against us and we do appear to come alive more
    And I do think of the timing is right (as in Jose can’t kill the momentum for defending) we can do what we did to United

    the one thing I’ll add is that palace are much better side than people want to give them credit for. And at home attacking their own fans they do always play better
    We haven’t ever battered them there that I can remember
     
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  17. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vivian Woodward

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    Shocking
    Two teams desperate not to lose
    It was turgid and the only action was via the ref
     
  18. Mosquito_Coasting

    Mosquito_Coasting Terry Fenwick

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    I think any trophy these season would be great (plus top four is looking likely). The league will be very difficult to win. Liverpool are a brilliant team who won't drop many points. It's hard but I don't think it makes sense to have the expectation that we will every game and should win the league. Lot of innate entitlement in football fans in general.
     
  19. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    If he really wants someone more defensive, he should play Lo Celso. He works as hard as Bergwyn defensively AND offers more going forward.
     
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  20. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Dean Richards

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    Jose is ultimately a pragmatist so I am surprised he set up the way he did away to Palace. Fully expect him to play this way against Liverpool. Can only think that he is still concerned that when we open up we concede. So he would rather not lose than win.
     
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