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****OMT*****Tottenham Hotspur vs. Chelsea, Saturday 8th March 5:30pm

Jurgen the German

Tommy Harmer
-----------------------------Lloris---------------------------------

Walker------------Dawson----------Verts--------------Fryers---

---------------------Sandro----------Capoue---------------------

--------Eriksen [-o<-------Dembele------------Townsend-----

----------------------------Adebayor-----------------------------

Subs: Friedel, Naughton, Bentaleb, Lennon, Paulinho, Soldado, Sig

**** it, I'm not confident and we have an appalling record at the Bridge but....

Chelsea 1-2 Spurs
 
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Chelsea host Tottenham Hotspur at Stamford Bridge on Saturday 8th March 2014 (KO 17:30) in the 29th round of 2013-14 Premier League matches.

Chelsea come into the game in first place on 63 points with Spurs in 5th place on 53 points. This will be the 192nd time the two teams have met each other.

Chelsea are one of the few major English football teams who never played Spurs during the Victorian Era, as they were only founded in 1905 and were admitted into the Second Division of the Football League without ever having played a match before.

This was due to the rivalry that existed at the time between the Football League and the Southern League with the former desperate to make in-roads into the lucrative markets which London and the South-East provided.

The first meeting between Spurs and Chelsea was a friendly played at Stamford Bridge in February 1908 and ended in a 1-1 draw.

The same venue saw the first Football League Division One encounter in December 1909 and Chelsea won that match 2-1.

The return fixture at White Hart Lane was won by Spurs 2-1 and in between those two matches the clubs met in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in a match which Spurs won 1-0 at Stamford Bridge.

Spurs and Chelsea would meet for another three seasons in the First Division before the outbreak of World War One with honours even at two wins for Spurs, two wins for Chelsea and two drawn matches.

14 games were played during the First World War and these featured many players who 'guested' for both clubs. Five of Tottenham's "home" games were played at Arsenal's Highbury Stadium.

Spurs and Chelsea had finished in the bottom two places in the last season of the First Division when war broke out and when football resumed in 1919, the Division was expanded from 20 to 22 teams.

Arsenal engineered a 'promotion' to the First Division at Spurs' expense but Tottenham easilly won the Division Two Championship and the next season had two emphatic wins over Chelsea 5-0 at home and 4-0 at the Bridge.

The teams would meet for another five seasons in the First Division and two seasons in the Second Division during the inter-war period - season 1929-30 was the last time Spurs & Chelsea played League games outside the Top Flight of English Football.

Spurs only lost two of those 14 League matches.

During World War Two, 16 games were played between Spurs and Chelsea

Spurs returned to the First Division in season 1950-51 and did the 'double' over Chelsea winning 2-0 away and 2-1 at home on their way to the first Football League Championship.

Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea contested the first all-London FA Cup Final in 1967 at Wembley with Spurs winning 2-1 thanks to goals scored by Jimmy Robertson and Frank Saul.

The first meeting in the Football League Cup came in the 1971-72 Semi-Finals with Chelsea winning the first leg at Stamford Bridge 3-2 and Spurs only managing a 2-2 draw at White Hart Lane.

Both clubs were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and both have been ever-present for the 21 seasons of the competition, along with Arsenal, Aston Villa, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester United.

Chelsea have very much had the upper hand during the Premier League Era with 23 wins to Tottenham's 3 with the remaining 15 matches drawn.

A second domestic Cup Final was contested in 2008 when Spurs beat Chelsea in the Football League (Carling) Cup Final 2-1 after extra time at Wembley. A Dimitar Berbatov penalty and a Jonathan Woodgate header ensured the silverware would once again reside in North London.

The 2010-11 fixture in December at White Hart Lane resulted in a 1-1 draw with Roman Pavlyuchenko scoring for Spurs after 15 minutes and Didier Drogba getting Chelsea's equaliser after 70 minutes. Drogba's injury time penalty was saved by Heurelho Gomes.

The reverse fixture at Stamford Bridge in April was won by Chelsea 2-1 with Spurs taking a 19th minute lead through Sandro and Frank Lampard equalising on half time. Salomon Kalou scored the winner after 89 minutes.

The 2011-12 match at White Hart Lane in December resulted in a 1-1 draw with Emmanuel Adebayor putting Spurs ahead after 8 minutes and Chelsea's Daniel Sturridge getting the equaliser in the 23rd minute. The game at Stamford Bridge in March ended in a goalless draw.

Chelsea won the 2012 FA Cup Semi-Final at Wembley 5-1 with the turning-point coming from a 49th minute Juan Mata goal which never crossed the line. Didier Drogba had put the Blues ahead just before the interval and Spurs managed to pull a goal back in the 56th minute through Gareth Bale. Three further goals from Ramares, Lampard and Malouda were added for Chelsea.

Andre Villas-Boas was sacked as Chelsea's manager in March 2012 and became the manager of Tottenham Hotspur on 3rd July 2012.

The match at White Hart Lane in October 2012 was won by Chelsea 4-2. A Gary Cahill volly after 17 minutes was the only goal of the first half and Spurs went ahead with goals from William Gallas and Jermain Defoe. A brace from Juan Mata and a Daniel Sturridge goal gave Chelsea the three points.

The teams drew 2-2 at Stamford Bridge in May 2013 with Oscar opening the scoring after 10 minutes and Emmanuel Adebayor getting the equaliser after 26 minutes. Ramires put Chelsea ahead again after 39 minutes but Gylfi Sigurdsson scored 10 minutes from the end.

Sigurdsson scored again in the 19th minute at White Hart Lane in September 2013 to put Spurs 1-0 ahead of Chelsea but John Terry equalised for the Blues after 65 minutes to ensure the points were shared.

Overall, Spurs have won 68, Chelsea have won 74 and 49 of the 191 matches between the two clubs have been drawn.


Clive Allen
Les Allen

Jimmy Armstrong
Frank Arnesen (Director of Football both clubs)
Eddie Bailey
Ted Birnie
Danny Blanchflower (Spurs player, Chelsea manager)
Derek Brazil
Johnny Brooks
Bill Cartwright
Sid Castle
David Copeland
Carlo Cudicini
Jason Cundy
Kerry Dixon
Gordon Durie
Mark Falco
William Gallas

Lee Gardner
George Graham (Chelsea player, Spurs manager)
Jimmy Greaves
Frode Grodas
Eidur Gudjohnsen

Tommy Harmer (Spurs player, Chelsea coach)
Alan Harris (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager)
Micky Hazard
Glenn Hoddle
(Spurs & Chelsea player & manager)
Stewart Houston (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager)
Percy Humphries
Steve Kelly
John Kirwan
Colin Lee
Scott Parker
Gustavo Poyet
Graham Roberts
Max Seeburg

Buchanan Sharp
Bobby Smith
Neil Sullivan

Andy Thompson (Spurs player, Chelsea coach)
Sid Tickridge
Jimmy Townley
Terry Venables (also Spurs manager)
Andre Villas-Boas (manager at both clubs)
Keith Weller
Ernie Walley (Spurs player, Chelsea asst. manager)
Harry Wilding
Clive Wilson
Vivian Woodward


 
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Hard decision for Sherwood. Risk it and go 442 away to Chelsea or drop Soldado after he's finally scored a goal, either way I'm sure he'll be criticised.
 
Hard decision for Sherwood. Risk it and go 442 away to Chelsea or drop Soldado after he's finally scored a goal, either way I'm sure he'll be criticised.

Harsh on Soldado but I think we'll get murdered if we go 4-4-2 I think Sherwood (hopefully) has learnt his lesson after Arsenal away in the FA Cup. Let's face it, we're up against it whatever team/formation we play.
 
---------------------Lloris-----------------------

Walker-----Dawson------Vertonghen----Rose

-------------Sandro------Dembele-------------

------Lennon------Bentaleb--------Eriksen----

-------------------Adebayor--------------------

Play with little adventure. Sandro to give Dembele and Bentaleb room to manoeuvre further forward with the ball. Without, compact midfield, tie the back four together with a rope.
 
Any result next week will be a bonus and our GD is so poor it wont make any difference at the end of the season; therefore losing 0-1 means the same as losing 0-6 but for professional pride.

Sherwood has shown now that he will adjust to the game and opposition so fully expect to see Sandro start which may mean that we have a better balance centrally and if n Eriksen or Siggy plays wide then could get away with Ade playing as a 10 off Soldado. Like I said above this is really a bonus game against a really in-form Chelsea team so why not 'have a go'
 
---------------------Lloris-----------------------

Walker-----Dawson------Vertonghen----Rose

-------------Sandro------Dembele-------------

------Lennon------Bentaleb--------Eriksen----

-------------------Adebayor--------------------

Play with little adventure. Sandro to give Dembele and Bentaleb room to manoeuvre further forward with the ball. Without, compact midfield, tie the back four together with a rope.

That's just about what I would go for too, assuming Kaboul is still out and all of those players are available.
 
Any result next week will be a bonus and our GD is so poor it wont make any difference at the end of the season; therefore losing 0-1 means the same as losing 0-6 but for professional pride.

Sherwood has shown now that he will adjust to the game and opposition so fully expect to see Sandro start which may mean that we have a better balance centrally and if n Eriksen or Siggy plays wide then could get away with Ade playing as a 10 off Soldado. Like I said above this is really a bonus game against a really in-form Chelsea team so why not 'have a go'

Because with Hazard, Willian, possibly Schurrle after this weekend and Ramires Chelsea is one of the best counter attacking sides in the world. And we're not very good at defending against counter attacks and our players aren't good enough on the ball to not give away good counter attacking opportunities.
 
Because with Hazard, Willian, possibly Schurrle after this weekend and Ramires Chelsea is one of the best counter attacking sides in the world. And we're not very good at defending against counter attacks and our players aren't good enough on the ball to not give away good counter attacking opportunities.

Agreed. Mourinho may not like it but I think parking the bus may be the best (only) option.
 
Agreed. Mourinho may not like it but I think parking the bus may be the best (only) option.

It's also what any other top side would do away to another top side. Not quite park the bus, but to sit back and counter. We are the only ones who don't seem to share this idea.

Liverpool and Chelsea both thrive of it. Even West Ham proved with some luck that you can shut them out. Adebayor will fancy his chances of scoring against anyone right now with the way things are going for him. Eriksen and Lennon I hope will be able to cause some problems. But the key will be to shut off the space between the channels, space between centre backs, between centre back and full back. Compact and narrow, be brave, win headers, throw bodies in the way. Don't concede from set pieces! Choke the likes of Hazard and starve them of the space they thrive in.

I think it's possible. Always.
 
On current form, I have no idea how we can get anything out of this game. Playing an attacking game will see us get hammered imo.

2 banks of four?

----------------lloris
walker---kaboul----vert----fryers
lennon---sandro---capoue---rose
-------------soldado---ade

Park the bus, play direct up to Ade and try and steal it.

:eek: No idea!
 
From a tactical point of view, do we have a hope at all against Chelski?

Anybody want to detail how we even have a chance at all? Again from a tactical point of view (not a blind faith/"anything can happen" type of view)
 
Pauli and Lennon really don't deserve starts.

So, assuming Walker, Eriksen, Capoue and Rose are all fit,

I would park the bus with two banks of four. A point would be great at Stamford Bridge

Lloris

walker
Verts
Kaboul
Rose

Dembele
Sandro
Capoue
Townsend

Eriksen
Ade


Harsh on Solly but him Lennon and or Townsend can come on the minute we concede a goal. Daws apparently played well today but against Chelski, I think he would be a liability against their mobile forwards. Choke the midfield and allow no space for their forwards to operate in. Wet Spam showed how to do it. Everyone must press and work their balls off.
 
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From a tactical point of view, do we have a hope at all against Chelski?

Anybody want to detail how we even have a chance at all? Again from a tactical point of view (not a blind faith/"anything can happen" type of view)

Sit back and keep it tight first of all, teams have shown that it's possible to contain Chelsea. Unlike the earlier Mourinho led Chelsea sides they don't have Drogba to batter their way through teams when teams are stubborn.

Chelsea can be hurt on the break and we have some good counter attacking players ourselves, particularly in Lennon and Ade. I also think Ade could get the better of several of the Chelsea defenders in some key situations.

First off though, we have to stay tight at the back, pack the midfield and work our socks off and try to avoid defensive errors.
 
Absolutely typical that tactically we'll probably have to drop Soldado after he scores...

My head says play

---------------Lloris
Walker-Kaboul-Vertonghen-Fryers
---------Sandro--Dembele-------
Lennon------Paulinho------Eriksen
--------------Ade

But my gut says **** IT!!! We can't play tactically, so let's go all out!

---------------Lloris
Walker-Kaboul-Vertonghen-Fryers
---------Sandro--Dembele-------
Lennon------Ade------Eriksen
--------------Soldado

(not THAT different) - How people can think Townsend should start ahead of Lennon almost blows my mind more than people defending Sherwood :D
 
If only both Rose and Walker were fit for this one. I'd have those two as full backs with Capoue and Sandro defensive shield. The defensive pair employed would be Dawson and Vertonghen.

I would use Bentaleb and Eriksen in the centre too. That way, e would have 4 midfielders in the middle; two defensive mids and 2 passers. I would then have Paulinho just behind Adebayor.

Width would come from the full backs. One of the defensive mids could drop in to defence to provide cover for when the full backs get too far up the pitch. We would in theory revert to 3 centre backs without the ball.

Paulinho could drift in to attacking positions whilst Eriksen would attempt to link the play. Play the ball along the floor more than in the air as I think that would trouble Chelsea's defence more than aerial balls.
 
From a tactical point of view, do we have a hope at all against Chelski?

Anybody want to detail how we even have a chance at all? Again from a tactical point of view (not a blind faith/"anything can happen" type of view)

Similar to what Brain said. And just hope that Hazard has a stinker basically, or Ade plays a blinder.
 
Tactically....phew its always the movement of the three behind the main striker from Chelsea which has us in the sh**ter!!!!

can we outpass & dominate chelsea for long spells in the game = no
with our defensive defeciencies from corners/set pieces can we set up and park the bus = no

Counter attacking is definitly the way to go for this one.

We should set up the defence very deep and we need to ensure that our slow cb's are screened...infact I would go with two defensive midfielders to help plug the gaps between our defence and midfield...our best chance is to suck them in and hit them on the wings...pace will be a must here...whichever side Hazard drifts to we will need to double up. Ade is our only striker who can play the lone role effectively.

so...

Lloris

Walker/Naughton Dawson Vertonghen Rose/fryers

Sandro Paulinho

Lennon Dembele Townsend

Ade

Its a hark back to AVB but I reckon its our only chance of getting something and maybe sneaking a win...if thats the case we will need a lot of luck!!! We can compete in midfield and impose ourselves at times but our players need strict instructions on who can/cant go forward!!!!

not expecting anything from this in all honesty even if were in the game im sure they will get a dodge pen or something...feels like a bonus game for me...and if we can be the team to break Mourinho's long undefeated record at the bridge....man I would Love that!!! love it i tell you!
 
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