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***OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Queens Park Rangers, Sun 24th Aug 2014 ***

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Tottenham Hotspur host Queens Park Rangers at White Hart Lane on Sunday 24th August 2014 (KO 13:30) in the 2nd round of 2014-15 Premier League matches.

This will be the 136th time the two teams have met. Spurs won their opening fixture away at West Ham United 1-0 while QPR lost 0-1 to Hull City.

Queens Park Rangers were founded in the same year as Tottenham Hotspur - 1882 - with the merger of two local teams, St Jude's and Christchurch Rangers. Most of their players were based in the Queen's Park district of North-West London and the club had a very nomadic early history moving to over 20 different grounds before settling down at Loftus Road in 1917. The White City Stadium was also home for short periods.

The first meeting between Spurs and QPR came in November 1890 in the second qualifying round of the London Senior Cup and resulted in a 1-1 draw. Spurs won the replay at home 2-1. The Spurs team featured several of the youngsters who founded the club, including Jack Jull and Robert Buckle.

Two friendly matches were played in 1892 & 1893 before the next competitive game in September 1899 in the Southern League. Both teams were also members of the Southern & District Combination League during that 1899-1900 season. Spurs won three of the four matches that season with one match drawn.

The clubs played eight more seasons in the Southern League together and were also members of the Western League from 1900-01 to 1905-06.
Tottenham generally had the upper hand over their West London rivals during this period .

Tottenham Hotspur joined the Football League for season 1908-09 and thereafter matches for the next 40 years against Queens Park Rangers were limited to minor competitions, friendlies and matches played during both World Wars.

The first Football League meeting between the two clubs came in Division Two in October 1948 with Eddie Bailey scoring the only goal at White Hart Lane while the return fixture at Loftus Road ended in a 0-0 draw.

Spurs did the 'double' over Rangers the next season on their way to the Division Two title, winning 3-0 at the Lane with a Bill Nicholson goal and a brace from Les Bennett, while the reverse fixture at Loftus Road was won 2-0 with goals from Eddie Bailey and Les Medley.

As a Third Division club, QPR won the Football League Cup in 1967 beating holders West Bromwich Albion in the first Final held at Wembley Stadium and were also promoted to the Second Division with players like Rodney Marsh, the Morgan twins (Spurs would later sign Roger), Tony Hazell, Mark Lazarus, Mike Keen and former Spurs striker Les Allen. They won promotion again the next season and played their first season in the Top Flight of English Football in 1968-69.

Spurs won the home match that season 3-2 with goals from Phil Beal, Alan Gilzean and David Jenkins. The away fixture at Loftus Road ended in a 1-1 draw with Jimmy Greaves scoring for Spurs. QPR were relegated at the end of the season.

Rangers were back in the First Division for season 1973-74 and in October they beat Spurs in the Football League Cup second round 1-0. The League match at the Lane resulted in a 0-0 draw and QPR won the away game 3-1 with Martin Chivers scoring from the penalty spot for Spurs.

Honours were even the next season with Rangers winning 2-1 at the Lane and Spurs winning 1-0 at Loftus Road - John Duncan scored both of Tottenham's goals. 1975-76 saw QPR finish as First Division runners-up, which was their best ever finish in the Football League.

The first FA Cup meeting between the two clubs came during the 1980-81 season and Spurs drew a third round match at Loftus Road 0-0 but won the replay 3-1 at the lane with goals from Tony Galvin, Glenn Hoddle and Garth Crooks. Spurs would go on to win the FA Cup that season.

The teams met each other again in the FA Cup the very next season but this time it was in the Final at Wembley. Glenn Hoddle put Spurs ahead in extra time only for Terry Fenwick (later to sign with Spurs) to grab the equaliser five minutes from the end.

The replay was held at Wembley five days later and a 6th minute penalty scored by Glenn Hoddle was enough to ensure the silverware would remain in North London. Many neutrals felt that Rangers were hard done by, as they had played very well indeed.

Both Queens Park Rangers and Spurs were founder members of the Premier League, but Rangers only managed to remain for four seasons before being relegated at the end of the 1995-96 season. Honours were even during the eight games played in the competition with both Spurs & QPR winning three games each with two matches drawn.

The fixture at White Hart Lane last season in October was won 3-1 by Spurs. First half goals from Gareth Bale and Rafael van der Vaart saw Spurs go in 2-0 up at half-time. Jay Bothroyd scored a header to put QPR a goal behind after 62 minutes but Gareth Bale's second goal of the game ten minutes later ensured that Tottenham would get all three points.

QPR won the reverse fixture at Loftus Road in April 2012 1-0 with an Adel Taraabt 24th minute goal enough for all three points.

The game at White Hart Lane in September 2012 resulted in a 2-1 win for Spurs. Former Tottenham striker Bobby Zamora gave Rangers the lead after 22 minutes and they went in at half-time 1-0 ahead. Gareth Bale's corner on the hour mark was headed towards goal by Steven Caulker and took a deflection off Alejandro Faurlin and just a minute later Jermain Defoe secured all three points for Spurs by tapping-in a shot from Gareth Bale which had rebounded off the crossbar.

In November 2012, former Spurs manager Harry Redknapp took over at Queens Park Rangers after Mark Hughes had been sacked.

The Premier League game at White Hart Lane in January 2013 ended in a goalless draw and QPR were relegated at the end of the season.

Overall, Tottenham Hotspur have won 61 of the 135 matches played so far with Queens Park Rangers winning 34 and the remaining 40 games drawn.


Clive Allen (player with both clubs & Spurs asst. manager)
Joe Allen
Les Allen (player with both clubs & QPR manager)
Arthur Archer
Ossie Ardiles (player with both clubs & Spurs manager)
Kevin Bond (Assistant manager at both clubs)
Ronnie Boyce (scout with both clubs)
Alan Brazil
Tommy Cable
Tom Carroll
Steven Caulker

Radek Černý
Pascal Chimbonda
Peter Crouch

Chris Day
Frank Drabble
Mark Falco
Terry Fenwick
Les Ferdinand

Mike Flanagan
Theo Foley (QPR reserves coach, Spurs reserves manager)
Gerry Francis (QPR player, manager of both clubs)
Andy Gray
Harry Gilberg
George Graham (QPR coach, Spurs manager)
Allan Harris (coach with both clubs)
Glenn Hoddle (Spurs player & manager, QPR coach)
Steve Hodge
Percy Humphries
Ben Ives (player with both clubs, Spurs scout)
Jermaine Jenas
Stephen Kelly
David Kerslake

Joe Knowles
Billy Lane (Spurs player, QPR coach)
Dave McEwan
Danny Maddix
Bert Middlemiss
Roger Morgan
Alan Mullery (Spurs player, QPR manager)
Ryan Nelsen
Tony Parks
Dean Parrett

Charlie Rance
Harry Redknapp (Manager at both clubs)
Rohan Ricketts
Wayne Routledge
Neil Ruddock
Frank Sau
l
Peter Shreeves (QPR coach, Spurs manager)
Andy Sinton
Sleve Slade
Peter Suddaby (Academy director with both clubs)
Adel Taarabt
Erik Thorsveldt
Andros Townsend
Terry Venables (player & manager of both clubs)
Kyle Walker
Paul Walsh
Pat Welton (QPR player, Spurs asst. manager)
Alf Wyman
Clive Wilson
Luke Young

Bobby Zamora

 
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This will be difficult, I hope our crowd doesn't just turn up and expect the win, hopefully whl is rocking and welcoming/noisy for Pochettino's first league game at the Lane.

We beat the spammers and got off to a winning start even though it was a shaky peformance even with 11 men. If arry is going 3 at the back then natural wide players are needed for this one, and ol Richard Dunne didnt look comfortable as that left sided cb.

what I would like:

Lloris
Dier Kaboul Verts Davies
Capoue Eriksen
Lamela Kane Townsend
Soldado

what we will get:

LLoris
Dier Kaboul Vertonghen Rose
Capoue Bentaleb
Lamela Eriksen Lennon
Adebayor

HELLO harry you were triffic for us....but sorry we need to win this to forge a good start! COYS!!!!!!! 3-1 two late Soldado substitute goals!!!

P.S in all honesty Kane deserves to start....I know it, my neighbours know it, my cats know it.....this guy called bob I met last year knows it ect.....ect
 
--------------Lloris

Dier------Dawson----Verts------Davies

-----------Sandro----Capoue

-----Lamela-----Kane-----Eriksen

---------------Soldado


W3-0
 
I remember back in the 80s going to QPR and coming away with a 1-0.

If we turn up, we can stomp them. But it's at the back I keep worrying about. 2-1 to the Lilywhites.
 
Same starting line up as last weekend, except Verts for naughts. would've preferred daws to have started midweek to ease the pressure on young dier- we need defensive reinforcement soon if we are not going to work him too hard. Verts showed he is still a few games away from match fitness yesterday which is a worry.

Kane does deserve a start, so ADE be warned if you are not up for it poch will hook you off!

1-1 this week, we were lucky last week with the missed pen.
 
The OMT Gods won't be happy. A statto borefest of an OMT is not an appropriate way to pay tribute to them. It will be Norwich all over again. I'm off to find a Redknapp avatar for you.
 
Its high time we drop Lennon.
Kane also deserves to start .
I also don't know why people would want Rose in the team ??
As for Soldado, except for that goal last night I thought he was beyond poor, that miss after a couple of minutes, jeez. And he didn't create anything except that goal against a poor team from Cyprus !!

Loris

Dier Dawson/Kaboul Verts Davies

Capoue Bentaleb

Lamela Kane Eriksen

Adebayor
 
The OMT Gods won't be happy. A statto borefest of an OMT is not an appropriate way to pay tribute to them. It will be Norwich all over again. I'm off to find a Redknapp avatar for you.

Welcome back TH. Borefest or no there's always something to pull out. Like the ridiculous number of players who've payed for both clubs - - kind of makes a mockery of the whole shebang really.
 
I find it strange ryan mason hasn't been involved in the squad last weekend or last night. I thought he looked really good in preseason. He must be getting loaned out? I think he looks a better player than paulinho myself.
 
---------------------Lloris

Dier---------Verts----------Dawson-------Davies

------------Bentaleb--------Capoue

Eriksen------------Kane-------------Lamela

------------------Soldado
 
Kane doing well. But I want us to persist with lennon. I do think he can be very effective for us in pochettinos philosophy. Kane is doing exactly the right thing. pushing the first xi for a place. But let's give some players the chance to prove their worth too.

I'd like us to show some improvement on last season in terms of display here. Would like I see you dembele play too
 
Its high time we drop Lennon.
Kane also deserves to start .
I also don't know why people would want Rose in the team ??
As for Soldado, except for that goal last night I thought he was beyond poor, that miss after a couple of minutes, jeez. And he didn't create anything except that goal against a poor team from Cyprus !!

Loris

Dier Dawson/Kaboul Verts Davies

Capoue Bentaleb

Lamela Kane Eriksen

Adebayor

That team except Rose ahead of Davies for me.....Sorry!
 
I find it strange ryan mason hasn't been involved in the squad last weekend or last night. I thought he looked really good in preseason. He must be getting loaned out? I think he looks a better player than paulinho myself.

Pre-season isn't an indicator of anything. Rose and Lennon looked good in pre-season too, but were back to normal last weekend. Training is a much better gauge.

Loans have never seemed to go well for Mason, even when we tried to put him in the more gentile French league. He was poor at Doncaster too, even with a reasonably progressive manager in Sean O'Driscoll.

Him and Obika seem in this odd limbo - not likely to make the 25 but too old for the youth team. It wouldn't surprise me if we Adam Smith-ed them both next week.
 
Kane doing well. But I want us to persist with lennon. I do think he can be very effective for us in pochettinos philosophy. Kane is doing exactly the right thing. pushing the first xi for a place. But let's give some players the chance to prove their worth too.

I'd like us to show some improvement on last season in terms of display here. Would like I see you dembele play too

I didn't see the game last night, but it sounded like the quartet of Soldado, Eriksen, Lamela and Kane linked up and gave us a rare fluidity. They are all very smart players and I'd be interested to see that allowed to flourish (with Ade and Lennon as options in tougher games when we need to play on the break more)
 
I didn't see the game last night, but it sounded like the quartet of Soldado, Eriksen, Lamela and Kane linked up and gave us a rare fluidity. They are all very smart players and I'd be interested to see that allowed to flourish (with Ade and Lennon as options in tougher games when we need to play on the break more)

The fluidity up front is a problem. But one goal against limited opposition does not get Soldado into the team in my mind or i think in MoPo's mind. Lennon is not creative enough for an inside out winger and Holtby is like a headless chicken. Seems Sandro is out of favour so can only see Capoue coming back into the side. With Naughton suspended i think we will see Dier back at right back so it should be Kaboul and Verts I would have thought.

-------------------------Lloris-------------------------

Dier---------Kaboul---------------Vertonghen-------Rose

-----------------Capoue------Dembele-------------------

---Lamela-------------Eriksen----------------Townsend--

---------------------Adebayor--------------------------
 
I'd also keep Lennon in ahead of Kane. Really not sure about our CMs - they all have their limitations and despite us having about 76 CMs, there's not an obvious pairing between them (clearly demonstrated by everyone on here having different views about who should be played in CM)
 
I didn't see the game last night, but it sounded like the quartet of Soldado, Eriksen, Lamela and Kane linked up and gave us a rare fluidity. They are all very smart players and I'd be interested to see that allowed to flourish (with Ade and Lennon as options in tougher games when we need to play on the break more)

eriksen didn't play.
 
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