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+ OMT - Spurs vs Man Utd +
- Thread starter ArcspacE
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THFC6061
Paul Robinson
Tottenham Hotspur host Manchester United at White Hart Lane on Sunday 20th January 2013 (KO 16:00) in the 23rd round of matches in the 2012-13 season.
Spurs come into the match in 4th place on 40 points with United in first place on 55 points.
It will be the 183rd meeting between the two clubs who were the "glamour teams" of the 1960s.
Tottenham Hotspur's first meeting with Manchester United came in the old 1st round (today's 3rd round) of the FA Cup in January 1899 when United were known as Newton Heath. The match was drawn 1-1 at Northumberland Park, but Spurs won the replay 5-3 at Bank Street in Clayton, Manchester.
A decade later the two clubs met for the first time in a Football League match with United drawing 2-2 at White Hart Lane in the First Division.
The reverse fixture at Old Trafford was easilly won by United 5-0.
Tottenham's first League win over United came in November 1911 2-1 at Old Trafford.
Both clubs met for four seasons in the Second Division during the 1930s.
Since the start of football after WW2, all League meetings have taken place in the Top Flight of the English League system.
In 1952, both clubs toured North America and played two exhibition matches with Spurs winning 5-0 in Toronto, Canada and 7-1 in New York, USA.
The clubs were drawn together in the 1963-64 European Cup Winners' Cup with Spurs winning 2-0 at the Lane and United winning 4-1 at Old Trafford.
Old Trafford was the venue for the 1967 FA Charity Shield with League Champions United and FA Cup Winners Spurs drawing 3-3 in a game most remembered for goalkeeper Pat Jennings' long-range goal. The Charity Shield was shared.
August 1979 saw the clubs meet for the first time in the Football League Cup and Glenn Hoddle's magnificent volly was the winning goal in a 2-1 Spurs victory at White Hart Lane. United went on to win the second leg at Old Trafford 3-1.
In June 1983, the clubs played two matches in Swaziland, Southern Africa, resulting in a win each. Before this season, Spurs last win at Old Trafford came in December 1989 thanks to a Gary Lineker goal.
The clubs have only ever met in one Domestic Cup Final - the 2009 Football League (Carling) Cup Final at Wembley, which ended in a 0-0 draw after extra time. United won the subsequent penalty shoot-out.
Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and are two of the seven clubs who have been ever-present up to the 2012-13 season - Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton and Liverpool being the other five.
The fixtures during season 2010-11 saw United win 2-0 at Old Trafford in October while the reverse match at White Hart Lane ended in a 0-0 draw.
2010-11 was the first season when both Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur competed together in the UEFA Champions League. Both clubs won their respective Group Stages and progressed to the Knock-Out Phase. Spurs eventually went out to Real Madrid in the Quarter Finals while Manchester United made it to the Final, only to lose to Barcelona.
The away fixture at Old Trafford last season in August resulted in a 3-0 win for United with goals from Danny Welbeck, who headed in Tom Cleverley's cross just after 60 minutes and he then produced a wonderful instinctive flick to set up a second for Anderson. Wayne Rooney scored with a pinpoint late header from Ryan Giggs's centre.
The game at White Hart Lane in March 2012 was won by United 3-1. Wayne Rooney scored on the stroke of half-time to put the visitors ahead at the break. Further goals were added with a brace from Ashely Young before Jermain Defoe got one back for Spurs with three minutes remaining.
This season's earlier fixture at Old Trafford resulted in an historic 3-2 win for Tottenham - their first in the League at Old Trafford in 23 years. Jan Vertonghen's second minute strike was deflected-in off Jonny Evans and Gareth Bale added a second goal after 32 minutes. United hit back through Luis Nani after 51 minutes but Spurs restored their two goal cushion a minute later with a Clint Dempsey goal. Shinji Kagawa scored United's second goal a minute later and Spurs survived the pressure for a United equaliser to come away with three very well earned points.
Former Manchester United defender Zeki Fryers joined Spurs in January 2013 from Standard Liege in Belgium.
Overall, United have a very good record over Spurs with 86 wins to 50 with 46 of the 182 matches played so far drawn.
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United Complete Match History 1899 to 2013
They Played for Spurs & United....
Jamie Attwell
David Beckham (United player, Spurs trainee)
Dimitar Berbatov
Bill Berry
Alan Brazil
Jimmy Brown
Fraizer Campbell
Michael Carrick
Garth Crooks
Harry Erentz
Quinton Fortune
Zeki Fryers
Terry Gibson
Tommy Gipps
Greoge Graham (United player, Spurs manager)
Jack Hall
Stewart Houston (United player, Spurs asst. manager)
David Gwilan Jones
Joe Jordan (United player, Spurs coach)
Cyril Knowles
Chris McGrath
James McNaught
Fred Milnes
Louis Saha
Teddy Sheringham
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El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
We're not going to win now and it's all my fault.
I said that I needed to start the OMT and that it would bring us three much needed points. Yesterday I was busy and unable to post in time before this OMT appeared. Sorry,
I said that I needed to start the OMT and that it would bring us three much needed points. Yesterday I was busy and unable to post in time before this OMT appeared. Sorry,
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
We are going to get murdered
Mulletperm
Mauricio Taricco
--------------Lloris-------------
Naughton--Dawson--Vert----BAE
--------Sandro----Parker-------
-------------Dembele----------
Lennon------Defoe---------Bale
Naughton--Dawson--Vert----BAE
--------Sandro----Parker-------
-------------Dembele----------
Lennon------Defoe---------Bale
Naughton16
Clive Wilson
eh?
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
United central midfield is their weakest area we dont need Sandro and Parker in there. Sandro and Dembele will be able to own Carrick and Cleverly.
Dempsey has to start.
Agree with that. No need for two battlers
Crawley
Board Legend
What the bloody fudge is going on?
First we get brackets instead of asterisks, and we don't beat QPR.
Now we get + and - signs ?
I almost want us to lose so we can permanently change your avatar to a naked pic of Rooney which I have in my possession..................
.......which was given to me by Chich 8-[
First we get brackets instead of asterisks, and we don't beat QPR.
Now we get + and - signs ?
I almost want us to lose so we can permanently change your avatar to a naked pic of Rooney which I have in my possession..................
.......which was given to me by Chich 8-[
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
Could ArcspacE explain what training top AVB is wearing?
It looks suspicious
It looks suspicious
superspurs
Chris Armstrong
They will attack us, we will hit them on the break, Defoe will have his shooting boots on and Lennon and Bale will rip them apart.
COYS!
COYS!
Kingdawson
Banned
Your're very much underrating how good Cleverly has been this season and how good Carrick is generally. I'd play Mullet's team but i'd have Sandro sitting, Parker box to box , and Dembele with more freedom to push forward.
So:
--------------------------------Lloris-------------------------------
Naughton------------Dawson------------Vertonghen-------------BAE
-------------------------------Sandro--------------------------------
------------------------Parker----------Dembele----------------------
---Lennon------------------------------------------------------Bale---
---------------------------------Defoe--------------------------------
Subs: Friedel, Walker, Caulker, Huddlestone, Townsend , Sigurdsson, Dempsey
Crawley
Board Legend
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Dempsey in behind Defoe. Dembele in the middle alongside Sandro (or Parker if Sandro is out injured). Ekotto back, Dawson to start ahead of Caulker although I could see Gallas being given the not if he's fit and ready.
Parker and Sandro together would make us solid defensively, but would severely limit us going forward. United are have a great team unit, the way they put pressure on teams is second to none. We need ball players in there to have any chance of playing through that pressure. If not I can see us being forced to play long balls to an isolated Defoe (I've seen that show before, no fun) or passing sideways without purpose or any real threat for extended periods of time while United sit back, waiting to pounce as the inevitable mistake happens. Most likely a combination of the two as United are great at varying their pressure.
We really need Dembele in the centre, doing what he did for us at Old Trafford and what he did for Fulham at Old Trafford. Then we actually need someone like Dempsey ahead of him to receive the ball once he does create that little bit of space for himself.
Parker and Sandro together would make us solid defensively, but would severely limit us going forward. United are have a great team unit, the way they put pressure on teams is second to none. We need ball players in there to have any chance of playing through that pressure. If not I can see us being forced to play long balls to an isolated Defoe (I've seen that show before, no fun) or passing sideways without purpose or any real threat for extended periods of time while United sit back, waiting to pounce as the inevitable mistake happens. Most likely a combination of the two as United are great at varying their pressure.
We really need Dembele in the centre, doing what he did for us at Old Trafford and what he did for Fulham at Old Trafford. Then we actually need someone like Dempsey ahead of him to receive the ball once he does create that little bit of space for himself.
