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***OMT Spurs vs Leipzig***

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Modric THFC, 8 Mar 2020.

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Man of the match

Poll closed 12 Mar 2020.
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  1. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Jimmy Neighbour

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    Problem is that we had (and still have) the lowest pro-rata wage bill AND were investing the lowest amount in transfers.

    Obviously adding to the wage bill is likely to reduce the transfer pot but to say that we couldn't afford the wages simply isn't true, we could afford them but chose not to take that route.

    All clubs have performance based contracts and have done for years.
     
  2. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    Clubs are now pushing the extremes of performance contracts
    It’s exactly why pool paid out so much more last season in wages
    And again the assumption we could pay more is just that, an assumption...
    Unless you have secret incite to the clubs finances
     
  3. braineclipse

    braineclipse Barry Daines

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    I think it should be remembered too that in a lot of the previous windows we had significant financial uncertainty because of the stadium, delay, increased cost.

    It's easy enough to just claim that we could or should have spent more, it's somewhat harder running things being responsible if things go terribly wrong.

    We pushed the boat out this summer, particularly with Ndombele. We kept the spending going in January at a decent level.

    I'm guessing whatever Levy does there will be people claiming that he should just spend a bit more, it's possible.
     
  4. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Jimmy Neighbour

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    I think any club that won the CL would see itself have a massive bonus bill.
     
  5. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    Yeah
    Pools also includes contract extensions too
     
  6. Bullet

    Bullet Ian Walker

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    Nothing new; Simon Stainrod played for Falkirk in the early 90s for £1 per week. He had healthy performance payments for goals, assists, playing etc. and did alright through that.
     
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    Bullet Ian Walker

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    I heard that too. It actually made me realise that if we covet the likes of Upamecano that much, we can EASILY buy the next U21 centre back on the production line. There are 40 of them out there across Europe, we just have to select one and commit to it.
     
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  8. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    If Poch was such a great coach, why did he improve so few of the 27 players purchased under him at a NET outlay of £200m over the last four years. That is the big question.
     
  9. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Jimmy Neighbour

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    Who’s to say he didnt improve them?

    Also didn’t £130 odd million of that net spend come in his final transfer window at the club, with him then not getting a chance to improve those four players (especially with two of the four injured and one on loan at Leeds)?
     
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  10. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Gary Stevens Staff Member

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    Again, we've been down this road and I believe I gave a detailed, player any player response as to who he improved. Further, if a player brought in was not his first-choice, how much could you reasonably expect him to improve said-player?
     
  11. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Gary Stevens Staff Member

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    ...not to mention one of those players not especially high on his list!!!!!!!!!!! (n.b. I am not sure where he stood on Clark so not about him).
     
  12. AjaxDeSuperYids

    AjaxDeSuperYids Pascal Chimbonda

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    Can we please have one new thread called The Poch Years and in there thfcsteff can have these endless debates about the who, what, why and when things went downhill under the great man.

    It just seems to be utterly endless across so many threads.

    That being said, its an important discussion so lets have one place for it and leave the other threads to be used for discussions around what those threads are about.
     
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  13. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Jimmy Neighbour

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    Porch’s time at our club was significant both in terms of length and development of the club. It’s therefore only natural that many threads will have discussions on him. I see no point in isolating that to a single thread and it wouldn’t work anyway.
     
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  14. AjaxDeSuperYids

    AjaxDeSuperYids Pascal Chimbonda

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    The problem is imo is that they rarely have any direct relevance to the thread.

    Its always indirect led by one person bringing every perceived negative back to the same narrative: poch was mistreated, poch was misled, poch wasnt listened too, poch didnt get the players he wanted, so we ended up with njie and nkoudou etc etc etc.

    Its too much in my view and is never-ending.

    It needs one place now, a good number of us are getting fed up with finding the same discussion wherever we look!
     
  15. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    Isn’t there a thread on Poch in the archive?
     
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    DTA Didier Zokora

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    What player was that?
     
  17. AjaxDeSuperYids

    AjaxDeSuperYids Pascal Chimbonda

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    As long as that is accessible then that would be the ideal place. Some people still want to discuss it I get that. But rather than drag up the virtually identical debate in various threads every couple of weeks, taking place between thfcsteff and then a different poster each time, take it to the Poch thread I would suggest, thfcsteff puts the same argument we’ve heard a billion times and then discussions can ensue from there.

    If it then dies down, thfcsteff can then bump the original post with all the same arguments we have heard a billion times and then a different poster will see it and then they can respond and then the same arguments we have heard a billion times can ensue.

    And then when it dies down a couple of weeks later thfcsteff can bump the original post......................
     
  18. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Jimmy Neighbour

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    I’m always happy to read thfcsteff’s opinions in any thread, whether I agree or disagree with him.

    Keep posting in any thread as you see fit please thfcsteff old chap.
     
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  19. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Gary Stevens Staff Member

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    World class trolling DQ. Of course, the fact remains, if Poch was still here we would not be having this discussion...:D
     

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