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OMT Spurs vs Antwerp

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Notmegov, 28 Oct 2020.

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Man of the match

Poll closed 31 Oct 2020.
  1. Aurier

    66.7%
  2. Lloris

    23.8%
  3. Lucas

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  1. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Frederic Kanoute

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    Yeah strange when other people have a bad night it doesn't matter because "they have credit in the bank", but dele doesn't?
    Harry and son were cack tonight, playing with players that were fit and they knew well, but hey they have credit in the bank.
    Son stopped on the edge of the box and stood looking for Harry while Moura and lamela were free 10 yards from him. 5 seconds later when he can't find Harry he hits an horrendous pass in the vague direction of lamela.
    And why was Harry playing behind, a good bit behind, son, lamela and moura?
     
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  2. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Frederic Kanoute

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    Come on mate, comparing that guy to Sissoko is just wrong on so many levels.
     
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  3. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Mauricio Taricco

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    I refuse to vote for a MOTM based on that performance. Dreadful. It's a worry that we have the 'ability' to put in a performance like that on a regular basis. There's been a lot of talk about us winning this trophy. Embarrassing. We look so short of ideas up front sometimes. The lack of movement from Bale, Bergwjin, Vinicius, Alli was shocking. No doubt against Brighton we'll be a different entity but this really was a terrible performance. Barely created a decent chance against the 140th ranked team in Europe, we're 14th.
     
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  4. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    Don’t under estimate Brighton
    They played chelsea off the park when they lost to them and have been unlucky, although they were pants vs West Brom the other day
     
  5. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Mauricio Taricco

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    Yeah agreed, when it comes to Spurs, assumption is the mother of all fcuk ups, but what I really meant was we will probably put in the other side of our Jekyll and Hyde character and blow them away in the first half. It's hard to know why we have this huge inconsistency but it's been the case for at least five years.
     
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  6. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Simon Davies

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    That’s the worry isn’t it. Jose said in the documentary, to Alli I think, that some players have great moments but big dips and the best players don’t have those sorts of dips (I paraphrase but I think that was the jist). That doesn’t just apply to Alli, it applies to Tottenham.

    6-1 v United, 0-1 v Antwerp. fudge, we even do it within games, just look at West Ham.

    Maybe it says more about me than Spurs but I was counting three points v Brighton. Now I’m riddled with doubt. The joy of Spurs where nothing is certain. It was ever thus...
     
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  7. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    And should have beaten United - they hit the woodwork about 4 or 5 times before losing to that pelanty after the game was over. Certainly no pushovers . We need to seriously up our game and shiw we want it as much if not more than them.
     
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  8. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    Same for me. No MOTM tonight in a white shirt.
     
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  9. greatwhitenorf

    greatwhitenorf Ruel Fox

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    How come no Royal Antwerp players were listed as MoM? From front to back, they put on a textbook defensive performance. Not only did they look good against us, they're top of the table in Belgium, a footballing nation that can teach England a thing or two. They're Euro ranking doesn't matter in the least. Only what they are doing right now.

    I'm not upset we lost. I never am when I see a superior team win and they not only outplayed Spurs, they were superior in tactics, attitude and game management. Well done to them and here's hoping a lesson was learned by Spurs.
     
  10. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Gary Stevens Staff Member

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    Indeed, and it is really odd.
     
  11. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Ian Walker

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    Well at least you didn’t have to go on anopen-top bus parade the following day :oops:

     
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  12. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Ian Walker

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    Perhaps Mourinho hopes that Dele has the drive to reinvent himself, like how Taarabt went from being a nutmeg meister to midfield boss...



     
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    90291Spur Johnny Morrison

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    I'm baffled by us not seeming to have an actual game plan. Admittedly it was short turn around from the Burnley game, but what was the strategy, at least in the first half, other than pass the ball around without really threatening Antwerp's goal?

    And we played like bunch of twerps.
     
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    SteveAWOL Ian Walker

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    harr1984 Nick Barmby

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    Thing is no matter how good the players you put out, if it’s a team that never play together there is no chance it is going to be a flowing team performance. The idea of having non-figuratively 11 quality back ups is great, and we do - but that is best served as 2/3 of them replacing injured players or rotating them in and the level of performance won’t drop. With a complete team overhaul like this it’s so unlikely to have a good performance regardless of how good the players are.

    Also, I don’t think enough credit has been given to Antwerp. They were so well drilled and organsied, much harder to play against than many of our PL opponents so far. They pressed really well in the first half, so I assumed their levels would drop off second half but they maintained it - they were a big reason why we were poor, so fair play to them....
     
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    Bishop Niko Kranjcar

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    I didn't think the first half was stressful considering the number of fringe players involved. Antwerp were definitely shading it and looking more dangerous but it felt like we could get something out of the match. Giving the goal away so weakly obviously have them a ton of confidence and we seemed especially lost at that point. I do wish he had kept things the same or at least left Vinnie on as he was probably our most promising player in the first half and his presence may have helped carve out some chances.

    I don't think you can draw too much from in singular performance due to the miss mash nature of the side. Even for those I don't rate they need to come into the strongest 11 and then you can see how well they fit or do not.
     
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    DeanoAustin Simon Davies

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    I think this misses the point that people who don't like his comments, and that includes me, are making. Are players going to cry into their cornflakes this morning? Are they going to go see their shrink claiming they're being bullied? Of course not. As Brooks rightly says, these lads are a lot tougher mentally than that.

    The issue is this for me. What Jose did brilliantly after the Newcastle game was created a siege meteorology. Stuff like "trophy-winning clubs get decisions, we don't". That creates a "we're all in it together against the rest of the world" situation. This sort of stuff fractures that a bit in my view. And at some stage he may be relying on Dele. I've no doubt that Dele will always be 400% professional when he's called upon. But if he's playing for a guy who is making disparaging thinly veiled references to him will he give that little bit extra that makes the difference at this level? Mourinho often talks about the importance of creating a feeling. For Dele and some others, is Jose helping to create a good feeling that will get that extra little bit that could make the difference?

    I don't really think the comments last night are a massive deal. They're slightly unpleasant and self serving but Jose has done this before and been ultra-successful. This is the way he operates. But criticism of those comments by fans doesn't mean we all think the players are sitting in a corner this morning crying that their manager is bullying them. Some of us just find the comments unnecessary.
     
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    StephenH Paul Stewart

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    Yes, I agree in theory, sadly ‘our’ Cup Squad look to be ill prepared and bereft of any form and confidence. Being the ‘second string‘ looks to have totally removed all spirit from those players.
     
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    StephenH Paul Stewart

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    He’s right, what else could say!
    He is close to ostracising quite a few players if he continues to manage via the media.
     
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    StephenH Paul Stewart

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    Spot on!
     

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