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Next Manager?

Discussion in 'Classic Threads' started by StephenH, 29 Jan 2021.

  1. AdamB

    AdamB Erik Thorstvedt

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    He's an odd-one. Did brilliantly with Wolves last year but horrifically this year.

    They have quite a lot of very good players on the ball (Neves I think is brilliant) but they play extremely defensively

    We could get better than him I think
     
  2. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    He is trying to change their style and system over a season and their missing best player
    But their transfer model is set up by an agent so that influence can’t help at times. They paid a lot for semedo and he is awful
    They paid a paid for an unproven kid that could have been spent on a player for now that they needed
    They also sold their second best player to pool in a buy now pay later deal which was very very odd
     
  3. milo

    milo Jack L. Jones

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    Fired
     
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  4. milo

    milo Jack L. Jones

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    OL played some nice football last year
     
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  5. MKSpur

    MKSpur Johnny Morrison

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    They miss Doherty.
     
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  6. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    They have changed their system without him
     
  7. afsoc4life

    afsoc4life Mitchell Thomas

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    Quick lets sell him back to them!!
     
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  8. MKSpur

    MKSpur Johnny Morrison

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    I think that would suit everyone!
     
  9. SpurSF

    SpurSF Stephen Clemence

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    Though I feel like there's almost zero chance of Jose going before the summer, my hope is that whoever we hire has three specific qualities.

    1/ A specific idea of how to play in possession — how to control games and create chances consistently. I don't really care what the style is — it could be Hasenhuttl's Klopp-like counter pressing or Rodgers' possession/short-passing based system — but I am just so sick of watching Jose's reactive deep block and counter. Plus, I don't think it suits a lot of our players who were bought to play in Poch's possession system.

    2 / This one is a little less specific, but I want somebody who is looking to build something sustainable at the club. In his entire career, Jose has never stayed more than 3 or 4 years at a club and in recent years, he's almost always left the club in a worse position than he found it. He clearly targets short-term gains at all costs, and unless we totally change our wage structure to compete w/ the Liverpools, Uniteds, and Citys, we're never going to be able to compete at the top unless we build something over the long-term. Jose has never been that person, and I hope our next manager does.

    3 / A real commitment to player development, especially young players. I guess this is one spot where you could argue that Jose's been ok, but none of our young players have really improved under Jose (I don't count Ndombele) and have mostly stagnated. I also think that comes to the transfer market, where we invested in seven new players, none (Besides Rodon) of which you'd really consider a young, up-and-coming player.

    I don't hate Jose as much as some, but I just think he's a bad fit for our club. I don't think it's our divine right to win anything, but I do think a club of our stature should be playing much more interesting and exciting football than we have since he came to the club.
     
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  10. Gazza

    Gazza Michael Carrick

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    According to some its all down to the manager and not the player, Hasenhuttl's currently getting torn a new one against a team that we dismantled with ease. I didn't see some post anything about Mourinho then.

    For any manager to succeed we need a full clearance of the deck including the reliance on kane. We can't get a striker in to challenge kane coz it's never going to happen.


    I would ship them all out, get a manager that wants to build his own team.

    This manager though has to be given free range on transfers within the budgets of the club and given a fervent chance, without moaning tacos the first time things go a little south.

    Further to this the manager has to genuinely have pedigree, a winning mentality and a willingness to work with levy and his constraints.

    Nevertheless we will only be competing at best, always the ugly sister at the dance.
     
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  11. AdamB

    AdamB Erik Thorstvedt

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    Kane, Son, Dele, Bergwijn, GLC, Bale, Ndombele and PEH give us a great basis for midfield and attack.

    REguilon is a decent LB

    Aurier and Doherty are passable RBs

    Lloris has occassional screw-ups but is solid 95% of the time (ie 36 games out of 38 per season)


    WE dont need a clear out. Just a manager to play to the squad's strengths
     
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  12. K.D.D.D.D.Soc

    K.D.D.D.D.Soc Jimmy Neighbour

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    Everyone on here should get 4 games, starting with the person with the most negative post this season.
     
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  13. Gazza

    Gazza Michael Carrick

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    I would have to agree but the same duds have been here long enough to prove that they turn up regardless.

    However it's just not the case.
     
  14. NorwegianSpursFan

    NorwegianSpursFan Allan Nielsen

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    So, about this Hassenhutl fella, any takers tonight?
     
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  15. Daisuk

    Daisuk Tom Huddlestone

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    Haha. :p
     
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  16. parklane1

    parklane1 Terry Dyson

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    He,He.
     
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  17. metalgear

    metalgear Jack Jull

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    Whoever the next manager is needs to understand the committee has a bug hand in assesmbling the squad.... Screenshot_20210203-062330_Twitter.jpeg

    Sent from my SM-T865 using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
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  18. SpurSF

    SpurSF Stephen Clemence

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    If Jose were to leave, I'd still have him high on my list of potential replacements (behind Nagelsmann, Rose, Rodgers among others). Obviously, shipping 9 goals twice isn't great, but I still think he's overachieved at Southampton, played some quality football, and brought through some promising young players
     
  19. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Vedran Corluka

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    As I said earlier in the thread, he also stood inactive on the sideline as we took his team apart by playing the same ball time after time earlier in the season. He followed that by crying after his team beat Liverpool in a PL game.

    Overrated.
     
  20. SpurSF

    SpurSF Stephen Clemence

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    That's fair, I can't say I watch a ton of Southampton games. That said, from what I've seen, I like the way Southampton plays, even though the squad is pretty uninspiring. I'd rather go with someone with more European experience (Nagelsmann and Rodgers, for instance), but I think he should be considered.
     

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