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Moussa Sissoko (the new Pirlo)

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Jordinho, 31 Aug 2016.

  1. the dza

    the dza Pedro Mendes

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    Exactly, they were terrible individual performances by our defenders today.
     
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    glasgowspur Jermaine Jenas

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    I can excuse Harry a bit, ittle to no service and even less protection, but eriksen seems untouchable.
     
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    Bedfordspurs Tom Huddlestone

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    Verts played like he was drunk
     
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    Legohamster Gerry Armstrong

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    Mopo took away his main CB partner.
     
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    billyiddo Barry Daines Staff Member

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    Not doubting the back four played poorly individually but as a team we let Arsenal through too often to expose them
     
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    Bedfordspurs Tom Huddlestone

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    They seemed to have all the space coming wide
     
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    billyiddo Barry Daines Staff Member

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    Not sure about that, Iwobi and Mhikityran went off for Ramsey and Lacazette and later Ghendouzi cane on, they won the game in the middle from what i saw with those changes sacrificing their wide men in the process
     
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    Bedfordspurs Tom Huddlestone

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    Lacazette played wide right
    Ramsey played central and closer to aubemayang
    First half they had everything come via iwobi
     
  9. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Dean Richards

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    This is the Sissoko thread, right? Best moment for me today - apart form our goals - was when he came thundering in to defend Davies after Son had won the penalty. Magnificent! Although quite what was eating Kolasinac escapes me.

    A few weeks back I found it impossible to ever imagine myself taking to Sissy but after Wednesday and now today, he's my new Spurs hero!
     
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    Kandi1977 Chris Perry

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    Harry offered absolutely nothing, along with pretty much the entire team.
     
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    Spur of the moment Dean Richards

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    Wow. You do like a bit of hyperbole don't you. Certainly not at his best but third big game in a week may have had something to do with it. He is human you know.

    Besides, got precious little service but delivered with the pen and went close with a decent long range fk.
     
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    Kandi1977 Chris Perry

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    Absolutely no "hyperbole". He had a very poor game, but that is obviously not allowed to say about the glory boy Kane, who can do no wrong. The only hyperbole is people defending Kane, no matter how poorly he plays. Besides, those excuses are somehow not relevant for the other players, only Kane. Strange.....
     
  13. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Jermaine Jenas

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    Funny, I feel exactly the same way about Erikson.
    If the result yesterday had been reversed and Ozil had put in that display we'd all be having a right old laugh. Yet 3 people voted for him as MOTM, I find that mind boggling.
    We all see things differently I suppose, and I have no lasting issues with any of our players, but it's tinkle me off when after displays like yesterday some get a free ride and yet others get lambasted.
     
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    imcallingbullsh*t Jason Dozzell

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    2 costly individual mistakes, the foyth one particularly threw us

    Arsenal bought in extra midfielders and over-ran us
    In response Poch didnt want to take off front 4 who looked big threat so took Dier out of midfield to a back 3 hoping pushing WBs up pushed us up pitch
    That gave them complete control of midfield and front 4 didnt see ball again, including eriksen who ended up in a 2 with sissoko vs 3-4 arsenal players

    Mistake was to not sacrifice Son for Winks and go 4-3-3 and bolster the midfield, it was a judgement call which was probably wrong, and was a misread of the game.

    That said if either Dembele or Wanyama had been available i dont think poch would have made same decision
     
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    glasgowspur Jermaine Jenas

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    Son was our most threatening player so I can't agree with that.
    Erikson has a habit of disappearing in games with tackles and hard running opponents, take him off for winks and move dele into Eriksen’s role.
    Definitely agree about Wanyama, said all of last season that without that shield the defence just doesn't look the same.
     
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    Spur of the moment Dean Richards

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    Not strange, just reasonable. Along with his team mates Kane deserves to be cut some slack. Three big games in a week is a big ask. They may earn big bucks but they are not superhuman.
     
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    Spur of the moment Dean Richards

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    Sounds like you have it in for Eriksen a bit tbh.

    On a day when few covered themselves in glory I thought he put in a decent shift overall. I bet if you check his stats out you'll find he covered more ground than most. That's what he's known for despite your suggestion that he disappears at times. He had one spell in particular when he tackled with nothing short of eyebrow-raising tenacity. Something he's NOT known for, but it being the NLD he showed he got it. Good on him too. Also, don't think I've ever seen him get so animated with the ref, he was having a right old go.

    So, sorry to rub it in but you definitely got me going. :rolleyes:
     
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    glasgowspur Jermaine Jenas

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    I don't have a problem with eriksen, I know what he brings to us but I'm also not blind to his faults. He has them, they all do. We don't employ eriksen for tackling and I've defended him on here before for not doing it, or not doing it very well. He is entitled to a bad game the same as everyone, and i will defend him when he does.

    What I do have an issue with is just about every player got p elters for yesterday except him, its like he's immune to criticism. Even you've done it to an extent, he covered a lot of ground, big deal, ground covered proves nothing. He was at very best peripheral yesterday, but problem yesterday wasn't just because of eriksen, several looked knackered and arsenal ran us into the ground.
    Ultimately, it was a bad day with several reasons for it and it was not down to any one player. We win as a team and we should lose as a team and we should be even handed in our criticism. Not that anything said on here really matters a toss, who listens to us, no one I hope:D
     
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    Spur of the moment Dean Richards

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    Agree, on its own covering ground can mean very little, you do also need to be effective. But I profoundly disagree with the suggestion that Eriksen hides. Not going to spend hours arguing over it though, we see things differently, let's leave it at that.

    BTW I have not criticised any of our players for yesterday's poor showing because with many mistakes from practically every player my conclusion was they were spent both mentally and physically. The wins over Chelsea and Milan seemed to have taken their toll. Son was about the only one with any fizz but he has played less than most this week. Whereas Arsenal were fresh because only one of their starting XI played midweek. That kind of preparation often proves critical when teams are otherwise closely matched and so it proved.
     
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    glasgowspur Jermaine Jenas

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    I'm not criticising eriksen, I'm a great believer in horses for courses and tbh this isn't his type of game, all that hourly burly.
    I'm trying to defend the rest of the team by saying/showing it wasn't just the ' usual suspects' that were poor, They all were, even one of our best.
     
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