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Mauricio Pochettino

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by DubaiSpur, 27 May 2014.

  1. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    That's not what I took from Hoddle's comments on Wednesday
     
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  2. harr1984

    harr1984 Steve Carr

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    Yeah I saw his comments, but what Hoddle thinks is plenty of funds and what Poch thinks he needs to spend might be two different things....
     
  3. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    We have no idea
     
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  4. Maltese Falcon

    Maltese Falcon Steed Malbranque

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    Exactly! This is becoming so boring and predictable. Just when the media's Spurs-y tag has been blown too smithereens, they latch onto the other stereotypes.. tight fisted Levy holding back Poch from his full potential.

    I am not saying Levy has not screwed up at times - losing Grealish for a few mill was so typical of his mindset, although we are talking about an unknown quantity and his impact is unquantifiable. However to look from the outside without any knowledge of what goes on between him and Poch behind closed doors and make assumptions is just ridiculous.
     
  5. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Neil Sullivan

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    Because he’s an Arsenal troll.
     
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  6. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Milija Aleksic

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    You're making wild assumptions here though.
     
  7. billyiddo

    billyiddo Paul Stewart Staff Member

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    That really sounds like the attitude of a man who only a couple of days ago spoke of how he turned down Real Madrid out of loyalty to the club, Levy and his contract.
     
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  8. Hotshot-Tottenham

    Hotshot-Tottenham Gerry Armstrong

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    Perhaps not necessarily.

    Surely the fee for de Jong would have been astronomical?

    The player chose not to come after long consideration. I don’t think that was just about money. He’s ended up signing for Barcelona.
     
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  9. harr1984

    harr1984 Steve Carr

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    Was about 75m euros so over £60m. Fees are often negotiated after agreeing terms(which we didn’t even end up doing with the player anyway) so no guarantees we would have been prepared to pay that - Levy might of tried for a lower price(unlike him of course). Of course it’s all guess work none of us knows, but I certainly don’t see suggesting Poch wants more cash than Levy has previously made available as an outrageous one. Otherwise if say 100m plus had been made available previously I’d be rather concerned that he couldn’t find better with that money. Can’t just use the we couldn’t get rid of anyone excuse as we quite clearly tried to get Grealish in for a certain amount so we would have been prepared to release someone. Would also explain why Poch is dropping these little hints about leaving, end of chapters etc etc to force Levy’s hand. But yes, all guesswork...
     
  10. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Vedran Corluka

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    I think even last year Poch stated we needed a new plan, a new chapter. We all know we (Inc Levy)can't sustain the levels we currently do. It just looks too exhausting for everyone.

    Last year he may have just sucked it up and let it roll round that one last time due to the uncertainties with the stadium. He has sympathy with Levy and realises in a different way this is a man, a colleague who is giving his all in his life's work.

    BUT Poch wants his turn and he realises to really go at it, consistently, he needs more. The infrastructure is in place, that has finished. 5 years Poch saw us thru this phase, giving us plenty to be proud off, beyond we ever thought possible.

    Poch knows the taps are turning on. It is not a time to be cautious. This is a man that is literally telling you thru his work...he can be our Fergie. He is a lovely human being too. Levy is not stupid he must know this. He knows Poch would never ask for too much either. Give him everything he does ask for though....he deserves it.
     
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    glasgowspur Vedran Corluka

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    People are fixated on the money, I don't think it money at all. Its belief, bravery, the meteorology to win that's the tools he's talking about imo.
    That squad is over the last 4 years has always collapsed in on itself.
    It's time start believing in us, he's always saying it, no is the time to do it.
    No more Mr Nice Spurs.
     
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    glasgowspur Vedran Corluka

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    Did de Jong not go for £80m? Hardly astro money. Only £20m more than was reported for Grealish. And that I think is the nub, we won't 'take a punt' for a championship player when £20m e tra gets someone who will make a difference.
     
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  13. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    I think that what Poch meant last summer and now is that the squad needs freshening up and he wants to build his next side. That was frustrated by not being able to move players on last year.

    Poch has made it clear that he doesn't want a large squad and we cannot afford to have players on the payroll who aren't in the manager's plans.

    I know some have tried to claim that we are asking too much for surplus players, but without much evidence to support this, but we know that we had accepted offers from Italy for Dembele last summer but he wanted to go to China and that there was little interest in other players that we wanted to move on.

    Let's hope that we have more success this year.
     
  14. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Vedran Corluka

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    I literally 'know' that was the plan last year, sell to buy as I have tried to explain in many posts this season. (To the get your cheque book out crowd)

    That was also largely about the being 'brave' comments last season. ie selling players you'd think we'd be stupid to. Rose Toby Moose etc and rebuilding to something better with the funds. I think Poch has said some players told him they didn't want to be here next (this) season.

    Poch (and the team) have dug so deep again this year.

    I think Poch is not necessarily a spender BUT when he has a plan in HIS head he requires others to buy into it, that includes players and the club (ie Levy). If players last year told him they wanted to leave, he'd want them to go, and as long as Levy isn't the hurdle for them not going (asking too much) , Poch will be ok with that. Poch will be annoyed that he has to reintegrate and get those players 400% pulling in the right direction though,as he will see that as a uneccesary use of energy.

    I think hes just checking the club are being honest with him, I mean there are quite a few that think that Levy is just tight fisted and is looking to cream things in for himself, but the taps are turning on and Poch wants a bit to flow his way. As I say he's never gonna blow anything for the sake of it, he just needs more flexibility in the transfer account. ie 'ill give you £100m net....you don't have to sell before, you can buy who you want, sell who you want, when you want, that kitty is yours, no need to discuss it further' ..Levy could say that and Poch can nod and work his magic on all the other stuff the team requires...without needing to worry about Daniel.
     
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  15. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Vedran Corluka

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    Too add.

    Maybe Poch has a little niggle that he doesn't want to feel that someone is taking advantage of his 'magic' for the benefit of their own dreams....when he's over here saying 'HEY!...I've got dreams as well'

    He's putting it out there...so everyone knows...and Levy knows....it's out in the open....and needs to be dealt with.
     
  16. elyid

    elyid Neil Sullivan

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    Some very good comments in here guys.

    He probably also has one eye on Toby, Eriksen, Rose etc who will be playing in the CL final yet we say we cannot afford to pay them what they want.

    Hopefully this actually motivates the players to perform, knowing there could be a “new project” on the other side.
     
  17. mudshark

    mudshark Mauricio Taricco

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    jts1882 Chris Armstrong

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    Well, last year he said we should be brave and we were. Not buying anyone in the summer transfer is so brave no one has tried it before. Now he wants a plan and transparency.
     
  19. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Chris Perry

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    I think the pressure is, if we lose Toby and Eriksen, then we need a rethink. We are refreshing, starting with a fresh approach, that will see us move forward. If Eriksen and Toby are not off, then we don't need such a big plan. Just one or two quality first teamers and some youth prospects. But that may put forward challanges with fiances, and maybe Poch is commenting on that. He wants transparancy that we don't have much cash for the next 2 seasons but then it will double.

    I see Poch's pressure on Levy as positive. He is ambitious. Levy is ambitious. They should drive each other. Push the boundries, and go all out. Spending lots of money is risk, but it can also pay massive dividends. We skimped on a number of players - Mane, Suarez - who would have taken us to a new level and been even more valuable assets.
     
  20. parklane1

    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    I normally like a lot of your posts mate ( honestly) but ( imo) i think you are jumping to conclusions without any real proof in this instance. I think he wants another plan of course he does, he has mentioned on many occasions the " 5 year plan" he came here under and now he is wanting to know what he next " 5 year plan" entails.

    And i see no hint of being unhappy or demanding anything in any of the interviews he has given over the last few weeks.
     

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